Posts by garyneal

I wonder too if they will caution against partaking in case someone in the audience is contemplating it. I had a dream about that where I was outraged and spoke out in the hall, pissing off my wife.

Telling people that they cannot partake? Kind of crossed the line with me.

We'll see...

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Why Did Jesus Address His Apostles As A Little Flock?

by wannabe in

" [luke 12:32].

"[ephesians 2:19-22] so, from that we see, that it was only the twelve apostles that jesus referred to as a little flock, as it says about other members of the heavenly calling; 'you too have been built upon the foundation of the apostles, and prophets... together into a place for god to inhabit by spirit.

' [luke 22:28-30].

garyneal

Augh, copy and paste. If I wanted to read the something from the WT, I would've just looked at the books and mags my wife has. Why do I have to see that here?

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If you tried to get your doctrinal or historical questions answered by an elder in your cong...

by NeverKnew in

what was the result?

i have seen answers strewn throughout many posts but never consolidated.

this is important.

garyneal

I find that I never get more than a bunch of Watchtower double speak and slight of hand when I ask pointed questions to witnesses (including my wife when she is in cult mode). I've learned that people just want their religion and their associations. To hell with facts.

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If you tried to get your doctrinal or historical questions answered by an elder in your cong...

by NeverKnew in

what was the result?

i have seen answers strewn throughout many posts but never consolidated.

this is important.

garyneal

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/194717/1/Getting-understanding-about-the-New-Generation-Light-from-a-JW-Elder

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What new light are they rolling out at the next convention?

by garyneal in

i think i heard that the wt recently announced that the fds is really the gb alone.

is this suppose to be brought out at the convention?.

any other new light coming out that anyone is aware of?

garyneal

I guess you can lump Babylon the Great in with the false teachers. By their reasoning, I am sure you can lump those human apostates in that category as well.

Bunker mentality.

I imagine my wife will remember some parts of it. If the Noo Lite GB = FDS is brought out, she will miss it, and she will get a wee bit zealous for a little bit. But it will fade and she will return to her old self.

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What new light are they rolling out at the next convention?

by garyneal in

i think i heard that the wt recently announced that the fds is really the gb alone.

is this suppose to be brought out at the convention?.

any other new light coming out that anyone is aware of?

garyneal

Thanks guys, looking over the program. Wow, Human Apostates. Didn't see anything concerning Babylon the Great.

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What new light are they rolling out at the next convention?

by garyneal in

i think i heard that the wt recently announced that the fds is really the gb alone.

is this suppose to be brought out at the convention?.

any other new light coming out that anyone is aware of?

garyneal

I think I heard that the WT recently announced that the FDS is really the GB alone. Is this suppose to be brought out at the convention?

Any other new light coming out that anyone is aware of? Sorry, but I have not been on here that much lately, so I am a bit behind on the latest witness stuff.

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How do I keep from being an enabler while not appearing like Satan

by marriedtoajw in

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one thing that i havn't mentioned in any of my posts is that i have a 26 year old son along with the 4 kids that my wife and i have together.

i became a father very young, 15 to be exact.

that's a whole other issue but not on this post.

garyneal

You need to be Enrolled, Employed, or Enlistment. Religion or not, I would take issue with a 21 year old living in my house who is unemployed or not in college. I would just stress the importance of that, especially in light of your starting a family at a young age.

Unlike your wife, I doubt there is a woman out there who will take care of your 21 year old after he leaves the house.

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What's Real About the Rapture?

by garyneal in

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-r-coats/whats-real-about-the-rapt_b_716688.html.

this is an interesting article posted by the christian left from thw huffington post.

i know jehovah's witnesses do not teach the rapture (except maybe for the 144,000) so all of them expect to live through the tribulation (whatever that was to them).

garyneal

Sorry for not responding sooner. To answer the question about IFB, yes, it stands for Independent Fundamental Baptist. Until I watched that 20/20 special on them and learned that there was a group of former IFB's that existed, I just used the full name but it got lengthy saying Independent Fundamental Baptist over and over again.

There are many striking similarities between the witnesses and the IFB's. When I started attending the meetings with my wife, I felt those same feelings I used to feel back in my old IFB church. That was part of the reason why I could never embrace them as part of the Christianity that I came to know after leaving the IFB's (they were far too similar).

Anyway, indeed, televangelist like Jack Van Impe were always about stirring up fear and begging for money. Jack went as far as to predict that he believed a lot of the events predicted in the Bible would start coming to past around the late 1990's (around 1998 from what I recall him saying). Well, it is 2013, and no rapture unless it was invisible. I don't know if Jack and his wife were IFB's but my pastor approved of them so at the time I believed what he said. Of course, my pastor also preached that the beast in Revelations was a super computer in Belgium and that Captain Planet was another form of Satan, or that the smurfs were demonic, or that Proctor and Gamble was run by satanists.

Wierd, but until I watch that 20/20 special, I never took the IFB's for a cult. Now I know better.