i'm sure many people, republicans included, are shocked at the results of the 2016 presidential election.
really, wtf!.
the polls were wrong and although it's tempting to blame voter suppression and fbi interference, that would just avoid looking at the real issues for the loss.
It is good that you found a candidate who does not brag about sexually harassing members of YOUR sex and do not advocate unconstitutional and racist ideas against members of YOUR race.
Please post source and links describing Trumps actual racism and no a temporary ban on Muslim immigrants until we can better vet the peaceful Muslims from the Jihadists doesn't count. Nor does tightening our immigration laws because we actually do not want open borders.
i'm sure many people, republicans included, are shocked at the results of the 2016 presidential election.
really, wtf!.
the polls were wrong and although it's tempting to blame voter suppression and fbi interference, that would just avoid looking at the real issues for the loss.
For anyone who thinks Trump "might not be that bad" or is really "no worse than Clinton", this is a sobering piece that you should read:
cue huff-po link
Sorry Simon, but I lost confidence in a lot of what Huff Po has to say since it became overrun with regressive leftist propaganda.
i'm sure many people, republicans included, are shocked at the results of the 2016 presidential election.
really, wtf!.
the polls were wrong and although it's tempting to blame voter suppression and fbi interference, that would just avoid looking at the real issues for the loss.
Really? This sounds very conspiracy-theory. I could also flip that and say that "the powers that be" wanted Trump.
Yeah it does sound tin-foil hatty but given that even neo-cons were backing Clinton. I really don't see how the "powers that be" wanted Trump given that practically everyone (the Dems, the Republicans, the National Review, many conservative and libertarian commentators like George Will and Thomas Sowell, and the main stream press) had nothing good to say about him.
i'm sure many people, republicans included, are shocked at the results of the 2016 presidential election.
really, wtf!.
the polls were wrong and although it's tempting to blame voter suppression and fbi interference, that would just avoid looking at the real issues for the loss.
But was it really worth the tradeoff for the potentially dangerous other things that come in the box?
Color me naive but I really do not see how Trump would be any more dangerous than Hillary. In fact, given how much he was loathed by not only the Democrats but by members of his own party, I don't see how he would get much done.
Hillary, on the other hand, could have had a lot more people saying yes to her since not only did the Democrats want her, so did many members of the Republican party. Including neo-cons like George W Bush and Dick Cheney. If that don't scream, "She's establishment...," I don't know what does.
I really thought that Trump had no chance in hell in winning the presidency because it was so obvious that (in the words of George Carlin) "...the owners of this country don't want that." The powers that be clearly wanted Clinton and Trump winning was a big F-U to the plutocrats.
With that many people of power in your corner, there's no telling what Hillary Clinton could've been capable of had she won the white house. She would not be listening to the people, that's for damn sure.
But, at the same time, some of them didn't *because* he was black and some truly racist low-lifes are now emboldened and a lot of Trump's language has already (from accounts) initiated ugly incidents of racism in schools and public places around the country.
As opposed to the bigots who are beating up on Trump supporters (like the video Nathan Natas posted). Not to mention all the protesters who would pick fights with Trump supporters during his events. I mean, really, we've all seen the protesters outside the JW Assemblies. How would JWs respond to those protesters becoming violent at these Assemblies? This violates freedom of assembly. What about the latest assassination attempt on Trump? What about people like Scott Adams who said that he got death threats for even suggesting that Trump might win the presidency?
harris is at his incisive best in his latest podcast.. he likens the situation to being on an aeroplane where the pilot has died and somebody with no experience of flying has grabbed the controls.
we should all be committed to his success.
prize for the best line goes to - "caligula with a iphone".. even if you love trump and despise harris you should appreciate his clarity.. waking up with sam harris....
Do you have the slightest idea of what you're saying? The average American is not a self-absorbed, narcissistic, scam artist with hundreds of lawsuits against him due to unpaid workers.
Okay, so there is one difference. Trump is a multi-billionaire who actually has the means to campaign for the white house. With all that loot, he can buy the best lawyers for his hundreds of lawsuits. I guess he is an average american with a boat load of money.
so i live in the u.s. i had family that lived in germany when hitler came to power.
i had family that was in london during the blitz.
being raised as a witness i was obsessed with everything having to do with the rise of the nazis.
I really don't see the whole doom and gloom thing and the comparison of Trump to Hitler seems ridiculous. Then again, I do not typically vote along the Republican lines. I voted for Obama twice but there was no way in hell I'd vote for Clinton. The vote for Trump simply came down to him being anti-establishment, like Bernie Sanders, and Hillary screams establishment.
I mean, that woman had neo-cons such as George W Bush and Dick Cheney supporting her. If that does not scream, "I'm part of the establishment," I don't know what does.
harris is at his incisive best in his latest podcast.. he likens the situation to being on an aeroplane where the pilot has died and somebody with no experience of flying has grabbed the controls.
we should all be committed to his success.
prize for the best line goes to - "caligula with a iphone".. even if you love trump and despise harris you should appreciate his clarity.. waking up with sam harris....
I don't despise Harris but I don't think he gets it from the point of view of the average voter. Harris stated in one of his anti-Trump speeches that he would rather some random American be picked as the next president, even if he knows nothing about government or politics. I really don't see how that is much different than Trump. Nearly every American I come across has some opinion on how the government should operate and says things that sound uninformed.
i'm sure many people, republicans included, are shocked at the results of the 2016 presidential election.
really, wtf!.
the polls were wrong and although it's tempting to blame voter suppression and fbi interference, that would just avoid looking at the real issues for the loss.
I voted Trump too. My vote had little to do with the so called "white-lash" that that idiot on CNN stated and more to do with the fact that I am tired of seeing jobs going overseas, decimating economies like my hometown. Tired of hearing that the solution to illegal immigration is to pretend it does not exist or is not that bad. Tired of companies cheaping out on labor costs by exporting jobs or importing third world immigrants (H1-B visas) while I as an American still need to pay ever higher prices for food and shelter.
Of course, I know Trump would be able to do precious little about this as the Democratic and Republican establishment would never work with him on these issues. Never-the-less, as a #NeverHillary voter, I would've been okay with anyone else and that includes Sanders, Johnson, or even Jill Stein. BUT, I only saw Trump as the candidate who had a ghost of a chance in beating her.
The social justice warriors who frame everything as oppression by the patriarchy and/or the white man in spite of facts to the contrary had little to do with it. Of course, calling all Trump supporters racists, misygonists, and bigots made people like me never reveal my intended vote during the campaign. I shy Trump supporter.
had two lovely jws (stephen and ruth) visit this morning.
this was our second study in the last 2 weeks.
they first knocked on my door (bell is out) 3 weeks ago and i shared my testimony and we arranged to meet last tuesday which we did.. our first study went like this:.
I have to admit that I feel similarly to some of the individuals who responded to the atheists who immediately went on the attack to Vanderhoven7's original post. While I can see their reasoning, I can also see it as being a bit discouraging. When I came on this board 7 years ago, I was very much a true Bible believing Christian who had just learned about the false teachings of the JWs. I remember receiving a lot of support from this group, even from the individuals who were atheists.
This group was very much more a diverse group of theists and non-theists than what I see today. I think if I had found this board the way it is now back when I first joined, I doubt I would've stayed long enough to eventually begin to question my own belief system.
had two lovely jws (stephen and ruth) visit this morning.
this was our second study in the last 2 weeks.
they first knocked on my door (bell is out) 3 weeks ago and i shared my testimony and we arranged to meet last tuesday which we did.. our first study went like this:.
It do seem like a waste of time trying to witness to a Jehovah's Witness. I'm astonished that Stephan was not the least bit interested in literature from 1995 and the flippant way he said, "We don't believe that anymore." How can a religion say they have the truth then say, "We don't believe that anymore?" I wonder if he realizes that the implication is that his religion was teaching something false by his statements? I wonder if he can think it through and ask, "How do I know if they are not teaching something false now?"
Then his statement about other churches and how the witnesses are not the only true religion? He really seems like more of a social witness than someone who cares about their dogma.
