I think the bigger problem is that their doesn't appear to be any viable alternatives to college for most people. Most employers will not even give your resume a second thought if it does not list a college degree amongst the qualifications. If employers would allow themselves to do more outside the box thinking on how to find good talent, other alternatives may present themselves. I remember during my early college years taking technical courses in programming and using computer software thinking, "I already know this stuff and I am merely taking this course because it is required for that degree I need to make a living doing what I already enjoy doing as a hobby."
garyneal
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Computers have successfully replaced college professors
by moshe inhttp://techcrunch.com/2013/01/15/how-californias-new-online-education-pilot-will-end-college-as-we-know-it/.
-while faculty worry about the quality of online courses, the truth is that our education system, primarily designed to test rote memorization, is built to scale and be independent of teacher interaction.
a review of research by the department of education in 2009 found that "students who took all or part of their class online performed better, on average, than those taking the same course through traditional face-to-face instruction.".
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Computers have successfully replaced college professors
by moshe inhttp://techcrunch.com/2013/01/15/how-californias-new-online-education-pilot-will-end-college-as-we-know-it/.
-while faculty worry about the quality of online courses, the truth is that our education system, primarily designed to test rote memorization, is built to scale and be independent of teacher interaction.
a review of research by the department of education in 2009 found that "students who took all or part of their class online performed better, on average, than those taking the same course through traditional face-to-face instruction.".
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Why in bloody hell is the newest edition that frickin expensive???!!
The whole thing about college textbooks never really made that much since to me. Oftentimes, you would buy a very expensive book since it was required for the course only to find yourself seldom opening it during the class. I remember taking one course, called Navigating the Internet, and the textbook for the course was some manual teaching you how to use Netscape Navigator. I thought, "You have got to be fricking kidding me, a book teaching Netscape Navigator?!?!" I did NOT purchase that book.
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Computers have successfully replaced college professors
by moshe inhttp://techcrunch.com/2013/01/15/how-californias-new-online-education-pilot-will-end-college-as-we-know-it/.
-while faculty worry about the quality of online courses, the truth is that our education system, primarily designed to test rote memorization, is built to scale and be independent of teacher interaction.
a review of research by the department of education in 2009 found that "students who took all or part of their class online performed better, on average, than those taking the same course through traditional face-to-face instruction.".
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They told me that when you're on your own, you have to figure everything out yourself. Sure, you can email your teacher a question, but you've got to wait to get a response and then maybe it's not clear and you have to ask again, etc. Conversely, most questions can be explained/handled in person in a fraction of the time.
I cannot argue with this as I have had experiences where I wish I could speak to the teacher outside the class beyond e-mail and the phone too. I guess in my experience though since the teacher was being broadcasted live over satellite it was easier. Those classes had two way communications which allowed us to talk to the teacher via a microphone during class. If we missed class, we could get the video tape of the class we missed (since all classes were taped). Some teachers did a role call of all the students (as well of all the satelite students) to ensure that students would not skip class during class time and only watch the tapes later. Most professors, however, did not care so long as the student did the work and mastered the class.
The third ad in this series kind of describes what we had. And it was not brought to us by AT&T.
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Computers have successfully replaced college professors
by moshe inhttp://techcrunch.com/2013/01/15/how-californias-new-online-education-pilot-will-end-college-as-we-know-it/.
-while faculty worry about the quality of online courses, the truth is that our education system, primarily designed to test rote memorization, is built to scale and be independent of teacher interaction.
a review of research by the department of education in 2009 found that "students who took all or part of their class online performed better, on average, than those taking the same course through traditional face-to-face instruction.".
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garyneal
I attended a community college from 1993 to 1995 and received my Associate's. Then I went to a university and since my university degree was different enough from my college degree (Electrical Engineering in Uni, Computer Info Systems and IT in college) I had to essentially start over. So, I attended university from 1995 to 2001.
The interesting part of the whole experience is that I drove to the community college to attend courses at the university even though the university is over 200 miles away. We were part of a project for taking university courses, getting university credits, and a university degree through satellite. We'd go to a small room with a handful of other students and watch the professor give his lecture from a remote classroom on campus. This was especially good for the navy since in some cases navy ships would simply drop anchor at some port and the students could attend these courses via satellite right on the ship.
I also took online courses at the 200, 300, and 400 levels either at this university or at another college. Two of my 200 level courses were taken online from another community college since the community college in my area was not offering them at the time. I just needed the credits to transfer to my university degree program. It was an experience as I had a mix of courses in the classroom at the community college, in the satellite rooms for the university, and online from either the university or other community colleges that were not in my area. I had to take three university lab classes throughout the course of my degree program, two of them were taken at an approved community college in a neighboring city and the third was taken online from the university.
I agree that college is way too expensive and most people either do not have the time or the inclination to go full time on a college campus. I tried going for a Master's degree back in 2009 at a nearby university and found the whole experience unpallatable. I dropped out after the first course, too expensive to park there, class itself was too expensive, and they even try to charge for things like printing documents on their printers. Perhaps I have been out of college too long but I could not help but to wonder what would be the value in obtaining this degree. The whole college thing needs to change because it has gotten too expensive for what little return you will get on the investment.
I applaud these technological advances, we need more choices and more ways to obtain our degrees because not everyone can afford to go to the traditional route at a university.
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Regarding "Scholar"---Does He Still Apologize For The Watchtower Organization Or Has He Learned...
by minimus insince he went to school?.
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Garyneal fears that this new scholar is not one of the celebrated WT scholars who graced our presence previously. Garyneal is saddened by this turn of events. This scholar's spelling needs lots of work, Garyneal is lol.
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My 66th birthday is today!!
by Terry inonce i was little boy in fort worth, texas living with my maw maw and paw paw and mommy.. then, i was an 18 year old 6'4'' skinny 165lb religious nut being dipped in a baptismal during a local assembly.. suddenly, i was 20 and listening to a jail cell door clang behind me as a conscientious objector.. wow!
23 years old and put on parole until my 6 years sentence was ended!
i got married to a nice jw girl and had 3 kids!.
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Happy Birthday Terry
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Post 607: Reject 607 BC if You TRULY Trust the Bible!!!
by Londo111 intherefore, if the 70 years period is for the destruction of jerusalem and exile at babylon:.
if zedekiah had not rebelled against babylon, had he surrendered during the final siege that lasted two and a half years, then the destruction of jerusalem and the deportation need not have happened.
then in the jubilee year, they were set free and their hereditary land was returned to them.
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garyneal
Scholar!!! Yoo hoo!!!
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Another sad non jw falling for a baptised jw girl story
by spirituk inok ,so this is my story , this jw girl came on vacation in my country as a friend of my girl-cousin who is not a jw but were classmates at uni .
my cousin introduced her to me but she didnt tell me that she was a jw from the very first moment we flirt each other.we went on beach ,on bars ,cafes etc and she acted so wordly ,in fact i thought she could be a good one night stand with her behaviour .never saw anything weird about her that could lead me to question something, with the peak in the club where we danced together while hugging very passionatly .
i tried to kiss her that night but she kept her distance , i didnt notice any bad on that.anyway, next day we flirt again at the the beach and at night too .
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garyneal
problemaddict
I will just respond with *like*
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Im a non JW and i'm interested in a JW
by littlebigtown123 ini'm interested in this girl and shes a jw.
i went to the meetings and i was bored out of my mind.
i can see how the religion is very appealing to people.
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Well, there you have it. The general concensus is to run.
I wasn't much older than you when I married my JW wife. When she and I was dating I remember a lot of peculiar things compared to the other girls that I dated. However, I dismissed a lot of it since I was an IFB and recall how we had very similar hang ups. But I was still surprised at how her own mom went and reported her to the elders due to our dating. How the elders threatened her mom that she would lose her privelege to pioneer because of our dating. How the other witnesses in the area were watching her and I when we were together, all under my nose. How her JW friends were treating her differently because of her dating me, and how her dad said that she was 'lowering her standards' because she was dating me. Most people I encounter at least gave me a chance and got to know me first before judging me to be a bad person.
If I had it to do all over again, I would certainly think twice about it. I am sorry to say but my overall experience with the witnesses has taught me that they are some of the most hypocritical people I have ever met. They judge you to be bad people because you are not in their little cult or because you celebrate the holidays. Meanwhile (at least as far as the witnesses I know are concerned) they want you to pay them money for any favors they do for you but won't offer a dime in return for anything you do for them (and they tend to ask a LOT from you). They won't vote or have anything at all to do with politics or the military (Satan's system) but are perfectly okay living off disability, social security, welfare, or a spouse's military pension (or their own if they were in the military in their 'former life') living off Satan's system.
During the early years of our marriage, I was astonished at some of her ways that was inculcated in her by this religion. Every year when she and I celebrated the holidays she would say things like, "I am going to die because of this, God is going to kill me for enjoying this." She equates celebrating the holidays to doing things like getting shit-faced drunk in the bars or committing heinous crimes. It is totally assinine. She did not feel comfortable taking our young daughter to soccer practice because her religion forbids it. When she and I went to a church together, she said that the demons were in the church.
It wasn't until I began learning more and more about this religion before I began to discover how dangerous this religion really is (and how equally dangerous other churches like the IFB churches were). Trust me, this girl's behavior that you are witnessing is a mere tip of the ice berg to the lunacy you will encounter if you continue to pursue a relationship with her. My wife and I have two kids together, read some of the topics I started on this board to get an idea of the struggles I encountered.
Here are some doozies:
- Encouragement from my mother to my wife during the holidays.
- What a witness may do if their non-JW spouse needs a blood transfusion.
- When my wife wanted to throw a costume party 'near' Halloween.
- My wife did not want to attend a company Christmas party with me.
- Mother-in-law's WT reasoning concerning why an anniversary party is okay but a birthday party is not.
- The book that will be read to your kids.
- Our JW babysitter taught our oldest child that Super Why is bad because they use magic.
- This one still affects her to this day and REALLY shows their hypocrisy simply because they love the MAGIC kingdom and my wife's favorite Disney character is Tinkerbell (doesn't that chick have a wand?).
Still want to get involved with this chick?
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garyneal
See I am still the oldest aboard.... 86 next May 22nd. If I make it.If I dont I want you ALL to remember to post a memorial on here....
I want Mouthy to live forever.
41 here.
