Posts by garyneal

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After 2000 years since JC was executed ,why have we heard not a whisper from GOD ALMIGHTY ?

by smiddy in

he/she had no problem talking to adam and eve ,though they were sinners in his/her sight .throughout the hebrew sriptures, ot, he /she had no problem communicating with fallen man ,imperfect humans , to dictate his will to his subjects by means of prophets , male and female ,according to the bible , the old testament ,the hebrew scriptures , god communicated not once ,not twice ,not even thrice ,but dozens of times during the first 4000 years of human history according to the bible.. why has this god been so silent these past 2000 years ,when their have been atrocities above the scale of anything that has ever been seen these past 6000 years of human existence .. oh you may say that the atrocities were not committed by god they were committed by man.

fair enough .but god intervened in human affairs in such smaller infringements.

with prophets or so the bible says.. the so called apostacy after the last of the apostles , the influence of satan in the world ,( or was that after 1914 ,) and the 2000 year gap when christ was supposed to return ,never mind about all the crap that went before it .. the fact remains we have never heard from god ,any god, or even" a " god, with either his/her approval or disapproval of events good or bad these past 2000 years... smiddy.

garyneal

has he ever restored arms to amputees ?

I don't think so, and evidently neither did Sylvia Brown. However, according to this link some people have been cured of AIDS thanks to Russ Kline.

Deaf ears and blind eyes have been opened, cancers have disappeared, AIDS and leprosy have been healed, people have been delivered from the power of the demonic and financial miracles have been released.

I think he has something over Sylvia Brown here.

Your following post is directed to the wrong person as I did not make those statements, BTW.

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After 2000 years since JC was executed ,why have we heard not a whisper from GOD ALMIGHTY ?

by smiddy in

he/she had no problem talking to adam and eve ,though they were sinners in his/her sight .throughout the hebrew sriptures, ot, he /she had no problem communicating with fallen man ,imperfect humans , to dictate his will to his subjects by means of prophets , male and female ,according to the bible , the old testament ,the hebrew scriptures , god communicated not once ,not twice ,not even thrice ,but dozens of times during the first 4000 years of human history according to the bible.. why has this god been so silent these past 2000 years ,when their have been atrocities above the scale of anything that has ever been seen these past 6000 years of human existence .. oh you may say that the atrocities were not committed by god they were committed by man.

fair enough .but god intervened in human affairs in such smaller infringements.

with prophets or so the bible says.. the so called apostacy after the last of the apostles , the influence of satan in the world ,( or was that after 1914 ,) and the 2000 year gap when christ was supposed to return ,never mind about all the crap that went before it .. the fact remains we have never heard from god ,any god, or even" a " god, with either his/her approval or disapproval of events good or bad these past 2000 years... smiddy.

garyneal

Well, depending on who you listen to, God is speaking all the time. I was in church last Sunday where they had a guest speaker that claimed he hears God speak to his whole family and reveals a lot of intimate details about the people who he feels the Lord is leading him to help. His wife claimed direct revelation about a boy who was about to get involved in a messy drug deal and a girl who was out with a man who wanted to take advantage of her. My BS meter was pegging and I could not see how this stuff was any different than what Sylvia Brown does when she has her revelations, presumably from God. Either they are both right, or they are both charlatans.

His name is Russ Kline (http://www.dhfirstag.org/klines/) and their miracle daughter even claims to have these direct revelations.

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Joined the YMCA! Start tomorrow on getting fit.

by skeeter1 in

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i joined the ymca.

of course, i joined it for the gym.

seriously, the best deal in town for a whole family membership that the gym actually allows tweens and teens to exercise in classes and on machines.

garyneal

My wife does the Y thing without batting an eye. It also appears that the witnesses in the area don't discourage it, or they don't know that she is doing it, or they don't know that the WT discouraged it.

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JW's will foam at the mouth if you pray to Jesus? Do they try to tell you this prior to the big sting?

by Narcissistic Supply in

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it took me 7 years to figure out that jeho's are mortified to sit in the room if you pray to jesus.

i've prayed to jesus my entire life.

i tell my estranged spouse that she can pound sand if she doesn't like me praying to jesus with my two little girls.. i tell her and her mom to pound lots and lots of sand if you think i"m going to stop praying to jesus.

garyneal

Yeah, my wife is like that. "People praising Jesus, thinking so highly of Jesus. Well, they totally forget all about the Father. They're going to need more than Jesus." Amazingly, she seems to miss these verses, even when I point them out to her.

Acts 4:12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.”

1 John 2:23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also.

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Scary Stuff

by Farkel in

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today's high school students in the usa:.

less than 1/2 of them cannot identify the century when our civil war happened.. one in four thought columbus discovered america sometime after 1750.. one in three cannot name one right enumerated in the bill of rights.. three out of four cannot name the first us president.. two out of three do not know the length of term of a member of the house of representatives.. half cannot find britain on a map.. one out of four cannot find america on a map.. when my oldest daughter, who is now a physician was in 9th grade in this once-great state of california, i asked her about the three branches of our federal government.

she was clueless and told me she would take civics in her junior year in high school.

garyneal

Who is this cartoonish old man? A Neo-marxist?

Oh, I thought everyone heard of George Carlin, the self proclaimed atheist comedian who routinely jokes about society and people. A man whose comedy is so funny because it sounds so scarily close to how things really are. I posted the full unedited skit here so you can see what he is talking about.

Hard to tell if he is really right but hard to deny the coincidences in what he is saying to what is observed (at least by me) in reality. Education getting progressively worse, problem solving skills in students seldom taught these days (more teaching to the test), more and more jobs are requiring education beyond high school, and more and more students just being herded through the school system like cattle. Meanwhile, the incomes of the middle class are largely stagnate or shrinking and the greater portion of the wealth going to the wealthy. It could all just be a series of coincidences having little to do with one another or...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMqJvhmD5Yg

Hard to tell.

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Scary Stuff

by Farkel in

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today's high school students in the usa:.

less than 1/2 of them cannot identify the century when our civil war happened.. one in four thought columbus discovered america sometime after 1750.. one in three cannot name one right enumerated in the bill of rights.. three out of four cannot name the first us president.. two out of three do not know the length of term of a member of the house of representatives.. half cannot find britain on a map.. one out of four cannot find america on a map.. when my oldest daughter, who is now a physician was in 9th grade in this once-great state of california, i asked her about the three branches of our federal government.

she was clueless and told me she would take civics in her junior year in high school.

garyneal

The problem is that ignorance, and its parochial view, is a breeding ground for bigotry, racism, mysogyny and many more of societies ills. Education is what combats such evils.

A poorly educated society is easily led by any charismatic charlatan, or would be Dictator. Ignorance is the road to Totalitarianism, we should not make light of the the younger generations lack of education.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGL8FEMc378

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WATCHTOWER CD ROM to be TERMINATED

by The Searcher in

imho!!!.

reasons?

just have a look at one or two of my very many favorites from the wt library.

garyneal

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How to stay married to a born-in JW?

by Frazzled UBM in

it is hard to work out where to begin.

i have been reading excerpts from this websikte for a long time and it along with a lot of the other sites have been incredibly helpful in helping me to understand what i have got myself into but i alos have no intention of getting out.

i love my wife dearly but in the 9 years i ahve known her and the 2.5 years we ahve been married i have gone through the full gammit of emotions, trials and trbulations and tactics to try to get her to understand that the society is not what it claims to be but to no avail.

garyneal

Also one of the biggest single things that has swayed my wife is the meanness of JW's. And at no point has that come out stronger than when it was time for children to attend college.

Oooo, I am definately encouraging my kids to attend college then.

But seriously, my wife is currently working on her master's degree and she does not get a whole lot of flack. Of course, she sees the occasional meanness from the congregation as well. Like, one of the sisters not inviting our oldest daughter to her daughter's slumber party and another one being short with her this past weekend and refusing my wife's invitation to a party at our house.

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How to stay married to a born-in JW?

by Frazzled UBM in

it is hard to work out where to begin.

i have been reading excerpts from this websikte for a long time and it along with a lot of the other sites have been incredibly helpful in helping me to understand what i have got myself into but i alos have no intention of getting out.

i love my wife dearly but in the 9 years i ahve known her and the 2.5 years we ahve been married i have gone through the full gammit of emotions, trials and trbulations and tactics to try to get her to understand that the society is not what it claims to be but to no avail.

garyneal

I am also what the Watchtower society refers to as an UBM who married a born in. Been married now for almost ten years and have been posting here for nearly four. I made a lot of mistakes, the biggest one is discussing doctrine. I guess I have been fortunate in some ways though as my wife was questioning many things about the religion before she decided to return to it so I have been gently working that angle over the years. I guess the only unfortunate thing for her is that her only two choices seem to be the witnesses or atheism even though I don't see things so black and white.

You need to school yourself on how cults work, some reading material that can be helpful is Combatting Cult Mind Control and Releasing the Bonds, both by Steven Hassan. Given my relationship with my wife and the other witnesses, I sometimes like to play games with them concerning their doctrines but I would not recommend you doing so, certainly not right now.

Teach your child how to think and reason past bullshit to ensure that he won't get sucked in to this or any other cult. I use to attend an Independent Fundamental Baptist church and they had some equally wonky and culty ideas.

Appeal to the authentic personality as much as you can, focus on things you two have in common and try to get her to enjoy her time with you when she is not at the hall. Spend time with your kid doing fun things, especially on meeting nights. She will eventually grow tired of attending the meetings all the time and want to spend time with you and your son.

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Are Jehovahs Witnesses a Cult?

by The Quiet One in

http://sianrose.wordpress.com/2011/07/15/are-jehovahs-witnesses-a-sect-or-a-cult/.

garyneal

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