I still think that whole march was pointless but let these women go out and dress as vaginas if they wish.
garyneal
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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?
by Simon init seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.
i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?
... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?
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the-question (607 BCE explained and proved)
by pleaseresearch inso a user named "the-question" said the jw's were right about 607 bce.. this is your chance brother to prove us all wrong.. we all can't wait to hear from you :).
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garyneal
Every historian specializing in that time period agrees on the range 586 - 587 BC for the destruction of Jerusalem. Every. Single. One.
Indeed, and every church I ever attended accepts the dates promoted by the historians. Even my annotated copy of the King James Bible uses these dates concerning the passages that speak of this. Meanwhile, the WT provides not a single positive piece of evidence to support 607 BCE. Just a passage of scripture that does not take into account to two extra years (as pointed out earlier). The rest of their "proof" is simply them trying to call doubt on the evidence that supports 586/7 BCE.
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No Longer a JW Expert But Starting to Figure Out Life
by AllTimeJeff inconsider this an update for those that remember me here.... when i left in 2006, it started a 10 year journey into a new phase.
no more "safety".
some people want to be their own person.
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garyneal
Hello Jeff,
I remember you back when you were still posting here back in 2009. Good to see you back even if it is only to pop in and say hi.
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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?
by Simon init seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.
i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?
... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?
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garyneal
The irony is that Trump may ultimately do more for overall womens rights than Obama / Clinton ever did if he's willing to put a stop to it rather than just taking the money and keeping it going (what Clinton was doing).
This was one of the major reasons why Trump was elected, at least for those who understood the dangers of allowing Muslim migrants into our country. And yes, I know, not all Muslims, yada yada yada. When the Pulse night club shooting happened, Clinton and Obama could not even say that it had anything to do with radical Islam. It was all about the guns. As Sam Harris pointed out, "...that was unforgivably stupid."
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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?
by Simon init seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.
i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?
... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?
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garyneal
Thanks Simon for starting this topic. We have someone in our neighborhood who took her child out of school on Friday and traveled to Washington for this ridiculous march. I was asking the same question, what's the point, the election is over, what rights do they think they are going to lose?
The minute Trump even tried to overturn Roe v Wade (assuming there is a way he can actually overturn a Supreme Court decision) the hysteria would be massive. Even conservatives are okay with abortion under a variety of circumstances and I suspect most of the populace are not going to allow this to go through.
What about other women's rights? Assuming that this man is truly a misogynistic overload who truly sees women as second class citizens (as these women make him out to be) does anyone really think that he has a ghost of a chance of taking away any rights?
But hey, with the Islamization of the west currently going on women will lose their rights eventually if this does not stop.
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2017 JWN Christmas Card Exchange
by blondie inin years gone by i have organized and coordinated this.
pm me if you want to be added to the list giving me your snail mail address and/or your e-mail for those with tech skills and a safe e-mail.. do this by december 14, and i will pm the list to each person on it.
latecomers will be added but you may not get it by christmas.
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garyneal
OTWO, just have them sent to your place of employment if that is not against the rules, or open up a mail box just for this (don't know how much that is).
I think I actually did that the first time I signed up. I was unsure about sharing my personal address back then.
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2017 JWN Christmas Card Exchange
by blondie inin years gone by i have organized and coordinated this.
pm me if you want to be added to the list giving me your snail mail address and/or your e-mail for those with tech skills and a safe e-mail.. do this by december 14, and i will pm the list to each person on it.
latecomers will be added but you may not get it by christmas.
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garyneal
The title says 2017, did you mean 2016? Add me to the list. I'll PM you my address. I may also recycle my prior lists for previous years.
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Election Post-Mortem
by Simon ini'm sure many people, republicans included, are shocked at the results of the 2016 presidential election.
really, wtf!.
the polls were wrong and although it's tempting to blame voter suppression and fbi interference, that would just avoid looking at the real issues for the loss.
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garyneal
If you do not understand this video then you have no clue why Trump won.
To paraphrase Michael Moore, "The enemy of my enemy is who I voted for on November 8th." This includes the elitists and all the regressives.
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Election Post-Mortem
by Simon ini'm sure many people, republicans included, are shocked at the results of the 2016 presidential election.
really, wtf!.
the polls were wrong and although it's tempting to blame voter suppression and fbi interference, that would just avoid looking at the real issues for the loss.
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garyneal
garyneal: I notice that you did not question the bit about sexual harassment.
Because I was aware of his sexual harassment issues. Would you excuse Bill Clinton? If so then that is part of the problem. There's plenty of dirt on both sides of the fence and this election gave us two very bad choices.
Donald trump has on several occasions suggested policies including surveillance and the creation of a database of Muslims, as well as the proposal that they could not enter the country. That is violating the US constitutions' guarantee of equal protection of religious expression and the first amendments clause about freedom of religion.
I'm not in favor of any kind of surveillance on American citizens but I remember something eerily similar to the Patriot Act being enacted by one GW Bush. Never-the-less this still does not prove Donald to be a racist as religion is not a race and the conflation of the two is exactly what the regressives are all about.
The use of these cute labels to identify the in and out group (racist misogynist homophobic white man or "regressive leftist"/SJW) would appear to exactly fit my diagnosis of the problem in my previous post.
And who do you think started all of this? The regressive left is in the business of labelling everyone who disagrees with as racists, bigots, misygonists, and homophobes. The term, regressive left, comes from the very fact that they are trying to squash free speech, freedom of assembly, and want to cower in safe spaces. When blacks want their own spaces it reminds me so much of the days of Jim Crow. This is a REGRESSION, hence why the term, REGRESSIVE left.
The issue is that next president is going to be a person who flirts with the idea of limiting the freedom of the press (specifically, change legislation so that he can sue newspapers who write bad stories about him) and put his political opponents in prison. Are those values reflecting the US constitution and democratic system in your opinion?
No but like I said, a president does not have this kind of power and I doubt he would ever get this. How many other violations of the constitution did previous presidents get enacted? Plenty of dirt everywhere.
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Election Post-Mortem
by Simon ini'm sure many people, republicans included, are shocked at the results of the 2016 presidential election.
really, wtf!.
the polls were wrong and although it's tempting to blame voter suppression and fbi interference, that would just avoid looking at the real issues for the loss.
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garyneal
One thing that's strange is how many issues seem to have a correlation even though they shouldn't.
You're starting to sound like a classical liberal there, Simon. Or at the very least, a centrist. I do not hold binary views on a lot of issues but it would seem like so many people on both the extreme right or the regressive left expect me to.
I remember the other day I had a back and forth with Jamie Bowers over the issue of abortion not being considered murder but killing a pregnant woman is considered a double homicide. She lumped me in with the right wing pro lifers who do not want to give women the right to choose over what they do with their own bodies and I'm pro choice! Can one not see the inconsistency of killing a fetus in the womb being referred to as a murder unless the woman does it via abortion?