Posts by Truthexplorer

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New blood cards came to our hall today

by LevelThePlayingField in

at the end of the meeting an elder, by way of announcements said there is a new blood document that he said would be passed out to every baptized member of the congregation by way of their service group overseer.

i knew this day was coming, just had no idea of when.

he said it was a simplified version and sure to make you sign up for suicide.

Truthexplorer

Hi LTPF

The elders need to be careful they do not pressure people into signing the advance decision. The law here in the UK says that the advance decision is only valid if you have filled it in of your own accord/voluntarily without undue influence or pressure from anyone.

The only thing the elders can say is that there are advance decisions available within the KH. If they pressure people by going up to them directly asking if they have filled them in or asking for a copy, this may deem the document invalid by the medical profession.

Note: I am surprised they still hand them out in some places. They don't do that here. You have to go to the book room to collect one. This is likely due to the laws around advance decisions.

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Mouthy has Passed Away

by Simon in

jw
friends

update on mouthy (grace gough)this is graces granddaughter.

i wanted to send an update that today my beautiful grandmother passed away - surrounded by friends and family.

- may 22 1927 - sept 2nd 2016. mouthys_granddaughter.

Truthexplorer

Really sad to hear. RIP mouthy

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2016--Medical Documents & BOE!

by Atlantis in

2016 medical documents!..

re: simplified advance decision document.

.. https://we.tl/sj94l0wsir.

Truthexplorer

I might add also. You can simply refuse to fill in the orgs advance decision and make up your own under NHS policy. You only need a piece of paper and a pen to jot down your wishes regarding refusal of trearments, and one witness to sign. It's your body, your life, your decision; Nobody elses

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2016--Medical Documents & BOE!

by Atlantis in

2016 medical documents!..

re: simplified advance decision document.

.. https://we.tl/sj94l0wsir.

Truthexplorer

In the Uk, The advance decision must be voluntary - meaning you make an informed decision without harassment from anyone. It is only valid if a person has made a decision of their own accord. They cannot be pressured by family, friends etc. If you have been pressured into filling out the advance decision, then it is questionable whether the document you hold in your hand is valid. See NHS - Advance decision - online

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NEW BLOOD CARD w/ FORCED COMPLIANCE also LEGALISM

by apocalypse in

i have looked around and i don't see this covered, so i am starting a thread.. 1) the new "blood card" goes beyond being just a "blood card".. 2) a new edict concerning compliance.. pay attention to the changes.. first, the new card is termed "advance decision to refuse specified medical treatment".

the big change with the card itself is that it includes an 'override' of your "power of attorney".

this is huge.

Truthexplorer

OK. Had to resurrect this thread. As I was walking out the door to go to meeting, my wife drops a bomb shell. She said 'Oh, I forgot to mention Yoda (not real name ; aka Cong sec) has been chasing her to get copies of our medical cards! I said WHAT!! Well he isn't getting mine. That is undue influence etc. She said look, I don't want to hear it. She knows my views all to well. As we drive up to the KH, I said you could have told me sooner to give me time as to what to do.

So I am sitting in the hall thinking what do I do. So I slip my wallet into my suit jacket. That way if Yoda approaches and asks for my card, I play dumb and say ' sure....then reach for my pocket.....and say oh I must have left my wallet at home silly me and put off for a while.

As it turns out Yoda didn't ask me. However, another elder came up and asked me specifically if I had filled out my advance medical directive...to which I replied I had. I was then expecting him to ask I give him it to photocopy, but he didn't ask. Phew!

Looks like they are pushing it. Anyone else been pressured just now?

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Download Raymond Franz PDF Books Crisis of Conscience and In Search of Christian Freedom

by Tenacious in

for those who've never read these incredible books by our friend ray franz.. here are links for both.

.

happy reading!.

Truthexplorer

A great help would be if those of us who have coc and have read it could put it in their local library. That's how I read the book. , Which was at the time like having gold dust in my hand. That way loads of people get a chance to read it

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Beards mentioned again in magazine!

by neat blue dog in

aaaaaand .

.. it offers absolutely nothing new.. from questions from readers in the december 2016 study edition watchtower:.

"is it proper for a brother todayto have a beard?in some cultures, a neat beardmay be acceptable and may notdetract from the kingdom mes-sage.

Truthexplorer

This is what I think of the Governing Body's no beards policy!

https://youtu.be/-qdNy_vz-gM

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"If the Earth were just a little bit further from or closer to the Sun, we would all freeze or burn"

by Island Man in

i'm sure we've all heard this argument by theists employing the fine-tuning argument.

are you aware, however, of exactly how much this "little bit" really is?

theists would have us think that the slightest change in the distance would have drastic implications for survivability.

Truthexplorer

Maybe just maybe the earth IS the centre of the universe ie the earth is flat!

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Ideas to discreetly identify the awoken among us

by Truthexplorer in

jw
friends

ok. i know this has been brought up in the past, but i have often wondered who in our halls are awake (for those of us who attend).

there are some i would consider a 'maybe', but no way of ever really knowing.. so here is my idea.

i hope it doesn't sound too masonic,.

Truthexplorer

Brilliant jw7 lol :-)

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Those formula prayers. I want to scream

by stillin in

when the co is visiting, i think i hear "thank you , jehovah, for this special week of activity" until i want to vomit.. also "jehovah, please remember those sick and afflicted.

we pray that they can make a recovery and be back with us.".

stale, canned, institutionalized garble.

Truthexplorer

And what was the model prayer Jesus taught 'OUR FATHER' in heaven.....

I personally get annoyed when every prayer is Jehovah this, jehovah that. A/the more accurate version is Yahweh/ Yahveh. B/ it is overly familiar with Elohim ((God). Referring to Jehovah now and again is fine, but it is much more respectful to pray to God by referring to him as Jesus quite rightly said 'OUR FATHER'.