DOC.........it took me a few moments to work out what stfu meant Lol.
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Truthexplorer
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Ideas to discreetly identify the awoken among us
by Truthexplorer inok. i know this has been brought up in the past, but i have often wondered who in our halls are awake (for those of us who attend).
there are some i would consider a 'maybe', but no way of ever really knowing.. so here is my idea.
i hope it doesn't sound too masonic,.
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Ideas to discreetly identify the awoken among us
by Truthexplorer inok. i know this has been brought up in the past, but i have often wondered who in our halls are awake (for those of us who attend).
there are some i would consider a 'maybe', but no way of ever really knowing.. so here is my idea.
i hope it doesn't sound too masonic,.
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Truthexplorer
Hey Rebel,
if the elders are able to spot the awakening brothers, then they too must be awake, but in denial :-)
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Ideas to discreetly identify the awoken among us
by Truthexplorer inok. i know this has been brought up in the past, but i have often wondered who in our halls are awake (for those of us who attend).
there are some i would consider a 'maybe', but no way of ever really knowing.. so here is my idea.
i hope it doesn't sound too masonic,.
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Truthexplorer
OK. I know this has been brought up in the past, but I have often wondered who in our halls are awake (for those of us who attend). There are some I would consider a 'maybe', but no way of ever really knowing.
So here is my idea. I hope it doesn't sound too masonic,
1/ awoken brothers could wear a silver pinky ring on their right hand. Nothing abnormal about that (Steven Left does)
2/ If you see a brother wearing a silver pinky ring, shake the brothers hand as normal and usual hello etc....but then give a nod at same time. If he is awoken, he will nod back.
3/ To make absolutely sure he is awake, wait till the month the Awake mags are out and collect the amount you need for field service. Hold them in your left hand before going up to shake the brothers hand. After his nod and during conversation he points to the Awake mags in your left hand and says ' some really good topics in the Awake this month'.
Bingo - you will know for certain he is of the awoken class. Though caution needs to be taken, but can gradually gauge things with the brother.
Though the above is a little bit of fun, it is also a real idea and discreet (not so obvious to company men lurkers).
Any other ideas. Perhaps sisters can come up with some discreet ideas for the ladies :-)
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The charity Commission has refused charity status to another religion in the recent past
by Truthexplorer inthought this was interesting.
see link below.
http://www.thirdsector.co.uk/charity-commission-reasons-refusing-charitable-status-plymouth-brethren-included-doctrine-separation/governance/article/1165267.
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Thought this was interesting. See link below
In 2012, the charity commission refused charitable status to the Plymouth bretheren for a number of reasons. Some of these reasons included the 'practice' of ,'shutting up' and 'withdrawal'.
Given what can happen (ie exclusive bretheren losing charitable status) and the fact that Watchtower have pissed off the cc by going to great lengths- fighting tooth and nail- to prevent their investigations into WT policies on handling child abuse cases, domestic violence and shunning here in the uk; even taking their case to the supreme court, yet lost! WT lawyers and branch committee members must be getting pretty nervous knowing they have to face a tenacious charity commission who will go through everything with a fine tooth comb.
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Every time I see one of them loving their kids, I think....
by jambon1 inevery time i see photos of new jw parents cuddling up to their new babies.. every time i see people giving the parents new baby cards & gifts.. every time i see them having fun with their children.. i think to myself; 'you would shun your kids' .
if they don't end up being jw's.
if they simply publicly declare that they don't believe.
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HB.....I had a conversation with my own daughter about the shunning policy.
I was watching a documentary on the exclusive bretheren that has a similar shunning policy. My daughter asked what I was watching. I explained it to her and then said that the woman in the documentary had been completely shunned- by her parents for years. She asked why. I said because she left her religion. She said in her own kind of way ooohhh kayyy!
I said crazy isn't it? I then said believe it or not we (Jehovah's Witnesses) are also expected to do the same. She didn't say anything. I said I can assure you darling that mummy and I would NEVER EVER do such a cruel thing..... EVER. Seed planted. She is an intelligent girl and will see things for what they are as she turns into an adult.
Sadly my wife doesn't want to hear me speak negatively of the organisation any more. She knows things aren't right, but I understand why she burys her head in the sand. Fear of facing facts and rocking the boat I guess.
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Every time I see one of them loving their kids, I think....
by jambon1 inevery time i see photos of new jw parents cuddling up to their new babies.. every time i see people giving the parents new baby cards & gifts.. every time i see them having fun with their children.. i think to myself; 'you would shun your kids' .
if they don't end up being jw's.
if they simply publicly declare that they don't believe.
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It's deeply saddening that the hard core JW's will follow this Policy to the letter. After all it comes from Gods representatives here on earth (aka Morris & Co).
The 'Good News' is that the charity commission here in the UK are very much aware of it. It will be interesting to see what transpires!
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10 good reasons why celebrating birthdays should be allowed
by bluecanary ini cannot take credit for any of the gems below but i did want to polish and organize them.
much of the information was borrowed from this thread.
if you can come up with any more, please post them.. the bible does not ban birthdays.
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Truthexplorer
We celebrate our child's birthday each year. Couldn't care less what the 7 blokes in Brooklyn think!
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Jw's and beards
by wannaexit inwithout going into details.
it appears that new light might be coming down the pipes that beards are acceptable.
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Truthexplorer
I saw a lot of men wearing beards here in the uk at the convention. In fact, several young lads from one local Cong were wearing them which I was really surprised about as some are sons of elders. To me it made a big statement.
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Jw's and beards
by wannaexit inwithout going into details.
it appears that new light might be coming down the pipes that beards are acceptable.
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Truthexplorer
Of course, locally bullish BoEs with dictatorial COBEs will still try and insist that beards are offensive in their area.................
Yep, the above is absolutely 100% the case. I know of one brother recently pulled up by the CO about the utter shock he had to see the brother sporting a ( neat trim beard) beard. The CO even asked him to read this September's Watchtower on dress and grooming. He reminded the brother that men don't tend to wear beards in the organisation and to look at the examples of brothers at the assemblys.
As sir82 says re the article....it is doublespeak. Unless the GB send each BOE a letter instructing them to avoid pulling brothers up for simply choosing to grow a beard, there will always be the the over zealous company men ready to pounce on anyone that doesn't tow the line according to THEIR pharasaical rules and standards.
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Another trinity thing
by Mozzie ini have gone through the ones on here, i have read so much about it and everyone seems to have a different idea as to what the creed actually came up with in the sense of explaining it, religious leaders from most denominations seem to try to explain it and are all different, it does your head in just trying to read half their stuff.
when i was going door to door, i knew how to argue against it, but now trying to learn about it.. i was reading an article of the net about this and how christ emptied himself of all deity and that, but with all the statements made and arguments to and for it, one question was brought up.
when jesus was asked by his disciples about the time of the end, jesus replied neither i nor the angels know the hour, only the father.
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Having researched the subject of the trinity and giving an educated answer in a nutshell. The whole trinity thing is a bunch of Babylonish man made nonsense!