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  Watchtower: Telling truth is only an entitlement, not a requirement.

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  while i didn't listen to the recent audio interview (see this thread), a certain watchtower official denied that disfellowshipped people are shunned by their relatives.

  i was understandably irked at that bald-faced lie since for the last 33 years i've been shunned by two of my children.

  then i thought -- hey, that official simply reverted to his watchtower teaching.. that jwn thread may not show up.

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  "The degree of family contact is a personal decision based on one's BibleWatchtower trained conscience"

  Remembering which "scriptures" they really follow puts that statement into its proper perspective.
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  Super Bowl XLV

  by Iron Head in

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  2. physical

  ok, let's get on with this.... .

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  (Yes, a day late and a dollar short...)

  Packers, 24-21
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  Keep the Watchtower out of your Facebook account.

  by Awen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with all the posts about the society hacking into facebook accounts, this new setting which was implemented today might be of some use for many people.. http://gawker.com/5744229/the-facebook-setting-you-should-change-as-quickly-as-possible.

  one of the nice additions, besides using https protocols is the addition of having the option to be notified via e-mail if your account is accessed from a new computer or mobile device.

  this will enable you to hopefully track the hacker and notify the authorities of suspected cyber crimes.. the watchtower would finally be able to be prosecuted for their hacking into jw and ex-jw accounts.. .

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  Summary: how to set facebook to use secure connections (https://)

  You can sign up for Facebook HTTPS by going to Account Settings and then selecting "Account Security," third from the bottom. Then click under "Secure Browsing" - if it's there. Facebook says everyone should have this by the end of the day, but in the meantime you might be missing the relevant option toggle.
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  On taking offense and taking responsibility

  by Lion Cask in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the darth plagueis soap opera is already winding down.

  the hapless plagueis, it seems, said some naughty words that contravened the posting guidelines and he has brought down on his head the wrath of the owner and his moderators.

  regardless, this is not about the benevolent dictatorship that is jwn but about standards of behaviour, permissiveness and tolerance and what, exactly, causes offense.

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  What Beks said: your parents' behavior makes so much more sense after you become one!

  @Lioncask:

  Yes, it is too easy to inadvertently offend those we disagree with. That's why it behooves us to remember the chips on our own shoulders. I know I have my own hot buttons, and that I need to back off when somebody starts pressing them. Most of the time, it isn't intentional. So do unto others, etc.
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  Dave Brown's letter of disassociation--or, you can't quit, you're fired!

  by GLTirebiter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  even with a polite da letter, sometimes you won't be left alone to go your way in peace.

  dave brown recently posted a series of letters (6.3 mb pdf file) related to his leaving the encanto, az congregation in 1980. it starts with his letter of disassociation, then a letter he received telling him he'd been disfellowshipped in absentia, written to him more than five months after his da letter, and more than a month after the announcement to the congregation (we thought you should be the last to know!).

  it continues with his reply to the congregation elders, and eventually to fred franz and the rest of the governing body.

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  In other words, I bet if he just DAed and kept quiet, they wouldn't have disfellowshipped him.

  That's likely true, and I agree in that situation holding one's tongue would be prudent: his wife remained in the congregation, so she would be affected by the congregation's attitude toward him. Those letters to his friends worked against any hopes for peaceful coexistence. Never the less, the DF was vindictive, and (as Brown points out) went beyond policies in the Flock book which were in effect at that time.

  Surely it is quite unethical for the Encanto congregation to represent me as a member of that congregation and then subject my reputation and character to the stigma that goes with disfellowshiping, when it was a settled matter that I was no longer a witness. The way the Encanto congregation handled their disfellowshiping procedure is also reprehensible. I was never notified in advance of a committee meeting to disfellowship me. Neither was I invited to attend. I was not informed of their action until the middle of January, a month and a half afterwards.
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  Please Tell A Story ...

  by snowbird in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in 13 words.. thanks.. syl.

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  The smile on her face told me she'd passed. "Dad, I'm driving home!"

  (a near-term prophecy...)
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  Dave Brown's letter of disassociation--or, you can't quit, you're fired!

  by GLTirebiter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  even with a polite da letter, sometimes you won't be left alone to go your way in peace.

  dave brown recently posted a series of letters (6.3 mb pdf file) related to his leaving the encanto, az congregation in 1980. it starts with his letter of disassociation, then a letter he received telling him he'd been disfellowshipped in absentia, written to him more than five months after his da letter, and more than a month after the announcement to the congregation (we thought you should be the last to know!).

  it continues with his reply to the congregation elders, and eventually to fred franz and the rest of the governing body.

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  Even with a polite DA letter, sometimes you won't be left alone to go your way in peace. Dave Brown recently posted a series of letters (6.3 MB pdf file) related to his leaving the Encanto, AZ congregation in 1980. It starts with his letter of disassociation, then a letter he received telling him he'd been disfellowshipped in absentia, written to him more than five months after his DA letter, and more than a month after the announcement to the congregation (We thought you should be the last to know!). It continues with his reply to the congregation elders, and eventually to Fred Franz and the rest of the Governing Body. He points out that they had not followed the procedures in the "Pay Attention..." Elder's manual, and that there was no reason to DF him because he already was no part of the congregation. It concludes with several pages of documentation explaining his doctrinal disagreements with the Watchtower.

  For a small sample, here's the introduction of his letter to Fred Franz:

  Dear Mr. Franz,

  The May 15, 1980 Watchtower (page 30) relates the almost unbelievable response one man received when he wrote to hls local Catholic Church to have his name removed from its records: "Under no conditlons can we remove your name from any Baptismal or other Sacramental records. As you know the Catholic Church is the one true Church founded by Jesus (Matt 16) and to so remove your name would be a sin against the Holy Spirit." Surely, such an attitude by that Catholic Church is hypocritlcal and preposterous. Due to recent developments I feel compelled to ask if a similar attitude is to be encouraged among Jehovah's Witnesses? I do not believe you think so.
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  What is a false prophet?

  by Spade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if jehovahs witnesses are false-prophets, who can we look to as a prophet(s)?.

  http://www.watchtower21.org/2011/01/what-is-false-prophet.html.

  a false prophet as described in the old testament under the mosaic law covenant:.

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  What is a false prophet?

  When a religious leader claims their divine inspiration shows a momentous event is certain to happen, the time for that event comes and goes without that event coming to be, and then they pretend "we didn't really say that": you've found a false prophet speaking a false prophecy. Here's a good example (MP3, over an hour long). Notice how Fred Franz "corrects misunderstandings" about doctrines the Society had previously declared as "The Truth." Describing this speech, The Watchtower of May 1, 1975 said:

  Another speaker, F. W. Franz, the Society's vice- president, forcefully impressed on the audience the urgency of the Christian preaching work. He stressed that, according to dependable Bible chronology, 6,000 years of human history will end this coming September according to the lunar calendar.
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  Do You Hate The Jehovah's Witness Religion?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i see some here who seem to despise the religion.

  others seem to feel that witnesses are wacky but they don't hate them.. do you hate this religion?.

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  Shelby, I can't improve on what you said!
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  Lack of Windows on KH

  by Band on the Run in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  when i active, kh had windows.

  the classier one had glass walls.

  i notice as i go about urban areas that they no longer have windows.

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  GLTirebiter

  Most of the reasons I can think of have been covered (cost, quick-build timetables, heating/AC, maintenance, vandalism). But there's one more thing I think enters into it: windows can be a distraction! It's not easy to sit still listening to somebody drone on about the coming destruction and anihilation when you can see what a beautiful day it is outside, especially for young children. Plain blank walls are less a temptation to day-dream.