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  JW Manhattan Project

  by Red Piller in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i received this and am passing it on email.

  (nyc) area by jehovah's witnesses.

  god in this project, too.. .

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  GLTirebiter

  Ummm ... and who, actually, is going to pay for this literature, and these Bibles?

  An excellent question! (even if rhetorical)
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  Notorious blogger: kudos to Watchtower!

  by GLTirebiter in

  1. social
  2. humour

  blogger l. d. ablo (say that out loud) appreciates the watchtower's preaching work:.

  "but what about jehovahs witnesses, or jws as they are called?

  it seems like i would hate them too, right?

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  GLTirebiter

  Blogger L. D. Ablo (say that out loud) appreciates the Watchtower's preaching work:

  "But what about Jehovah’s Witnesses, or “JW’s” as they are called? It seems like I would hate them too, right?

  Don’t I hate Jehovah? And don’t they witness for Jehovah?

  Yes, and, well, no. Not really."

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  ** Please note: This is the humor category. If you don't appreciate satire and sarcasm, don't read the link (or anything else beelzeblogger posts). **
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  Wrecked my car yesterday

  by NewChapter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the other driver turned left in front of me and i hit him hard.

  my car is a total mess.

  i'm not sure if they are going to total it.

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  GLTirebiter

  I'm glad that you're safe! I'm sorry your car is totalled, but glad you're still around to get another one.
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  It's Time to Stop Saying...

  by zengalileo in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  it's time to stop saying that jehovah's witnesses do not accept blood transfusions.

  it just isn't true any longer.

  i have posted documentary evidence of jws world wide accepting whole platelets , whole plasma, whole white blood cells, their own whole blood after it being stored up to six hours, and evidence of them saying they are "very happy" that the courts ordered the transfusion of their children saving their lives.

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  TheofficialWatchtowerwebsitehasmanyarticles that show the blood policy remains in place. It's noteworthy that on their "medical care" page (the first link), blood is the most prominent issue. While they speak disingenously about blood being a "conscience matter", the articles leave no doubt about what conclusion your "trained christian conscience" should make. They have changed the wording to create "plausible deniability"; they have not changed the teaching, and the Hospital Laision Committee is still in business.
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  Acceptable and unacceptable dress for visiting Bethel

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just came across this on another thread with pictures/photos ,is this for real ?

  i couldnt beleive my eyes or ears?.

  the control that this organization has over it`s members... is ..is ... well it`s a cult !!

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  Why can the African dude wear a dress to Bethel?

  

  Would they turn Prince Charles away for improper attire?
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  Gag worthy

  by baltar447 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  taken from a closed jw facebook group:.

  "the kingdom hall is my university, jehovah is my professor, jesus is my instructor, the holy spirit is my protector, the angels are my support system, the worldwide brotherhood are my class mates, the bible is my text book, trials & temptations are my exams, finding lost sheep is my assignment, prayer is my attendance, life in paradise is my future degree, and doing jehovah's will is my motto.

  enroll today!!!

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  GLTirebiter

  (finishing up for N.drew)

  There was only room for 144,000 and ALL THE SPOTS ARE TAKEN, and no matter how much tuiton you pay YOU STILL AREN'T GIVING ENOUGH!
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  What all does it mean to "get out of her"? Do you need to formally disassociate?

  by ataloa in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this has been nagging at me a little bit; i left 10 years ago, but am not df'd as far as i know.

  i recognize the fact that this organization has no authority over me so would not bother with a letter just for them to clean up their records.. but to obey the bible command, is it enough to no longer be a part of it, or is it important to show god where you stand with a formal act of withdrawal from the organization?

  what are your thoughts?.

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  GLTirebiter

  But to obey the Bible command, is it enough to no longer be a part of it, or is it important to show God where you stand with a formal act of withdrawal from the organization?

  You show God what you are and aren't a part of by how you live, not by sending a letter that will sit in a file folder. "If, you love me, you will keep my commandments" (John 24:15). That tells God where you stand.
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  Can a non JW attend JW Weddings?

  by camicia in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi all, i've posted here before about my daughter's desire to get baptized as a jw and me attempting to prevent that, and the worst has happened: she's fallen in love and going full steam ahead with this thing.

  i won't bore you with my feelings on the matter, if she's happy, i'm happy (and i really hope she's happy) but it just crossed my mind: if my daughter and her husband are jw's, will her family be able to go to the wedding?

  what about socializing in general?

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  I've been to a half dozen or so, while I was married to a JW.

  It would be nice if they had more than one script for the "wedding talk".

  Most of the receptions were "dry"; the only exception I remember was one held at home instead of the Kingdom Hall.

  Wardrobe expectations are the same as Conventions and meetings during the CO visit: suits and ties for the gents, modest dresses or skirts complete with hose for ladies, children dressed like miniature adults, and dress shoes for everybody.
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  WT Society Appoints Elders/MS Based on " Functions " Performed - not ....

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ........... holy spirit or any " fruitages of the spirit " like love, kindness, mildness, meekness , etc.

  shown by men considered for elder or ms positions.

  qualities or true positive character traits are not that important to the wt society in appointments of these men in jw congregations.. no, the real " qualifications " that a jw man needs to exhibit is being able to report 10 hours a month in knocking on people's doors offering wt and awake magazines !

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  Several of my former brothers-in-law were ministerial servants and elders. Only one might have had some formal training (he was a missionary, so I suspect he went to Gilead at some point). It's sad little emphasis the Watchtower puts on formal education, not even having theological seminaries for their clergy. When a young man from the local congregation went away to Bethel, I was surprised to learn that he was crossing the continent be a laborer. The way they praised Bethel I thought it was Jehovah's Theological Seminary for Future Elders, not a printing plant (how naive of me!)
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  Should Joe Paterno resign over the Penn State child sex abuse scandal?

  by james_woods in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  first, i don't know if we have had a thread on this yet - so if this is a repost, ignore appropriately.. but i am thoroughly disgusted by this developing scandal - an assistant coach at pen state is accused of multiple, repeated, child sexual offenses.

  a member of the football staff exewitnesses and incident reported it to paterno (years ago, it is reported) - and paterno reported it to the athletic director.

  nothing was done, nothing was reported to the authorities.. finally, the scandal broke over the weekend.. i am deeply dissapointed with paterno - this guy was one of my football heros.

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  GLTirebiter

  As to who is legally required to report differs from state to state in the US.

  A brief summary of Pennsylvania reporting laws, per US Department of Health and Human Services:

  • Mandatory reporters include school administrators, teachers, peace officers and law enforcement officials [the H.S.S. article does not say whether this statute's use of "school" and "teachers" includes college-level]. Reporting is mandatory when they have "reasonable cause to suspect". Attorney-Client and Clergy-Penitent privilege is recognized according to other statutes. (Cons. Stat. Tit. 23, § 6311)
  • Any person with "reason to suspect" may make a report (Cons. Stat. Tit. 23, § 6312).
  • Mandated reporters must do so in writing, including their name and contact information (Cons. Stat. Tit. 23, § 6313).
  • Anyone making a report in good faith is immune from criminal and civil liability for doing so. (Pa. Cons. Stat. Ann. Ch. 23, § 6318)
  • Mandatory reporters who willfully fail to do so commit a misdemeanor (Cons. Stat. Ch. 23, § 6319).
  • Identity of mandatory reporters must be kept confidential "unless the secretary finds that the release will not be detrimental to the safety of the reporter" (Cons. Stat. Tit. 23, § 6340).

  In the Shepherd the Flock of God book...page 131 p.19... regarding sexual child abuse..."Whether to report the matter to the authorities or not is a personal decision for each individual to make."

  In light of what is going on at PSU, is the above statement legally wrong?

  I am not trained and licensed to give legal advice, so I can't say if the statement is "legally wrong". But I can say that my "personal decision" is to act based on legal advice from a qualified attorney, not the "Flock" book.