does it appear that the feb 15, 2008 was setting jws for a future generation change?.
can we calculate the length of this generation?.
the word generation usually refers to people of various ages whose lives overlap during a particular time period or event.
it'll come when the good news will have been [satisfactorily] preached in all the earth, which is something that Jesus also said (Matthew 24:14),
(Matthew
24:14, NWT) And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.Forgive my copying and pasting...but does anyone else see a difference here?
maybe it's me but i see more males act less "manly".
i dunno..
i've been visiting this forum everyday, reading and waiting patiently for approval to post.
i've never been a jw.
my husband and daughter are.
I'm not so sure Mrs.Jones is intimidated. She's more like a mama bear looking out for the kiddos. On that note, Today, you are in a tight predicament. Its great your son is quick witted... maybe he'd enjoy this video
i've been visiting this forum everyday, reading and waiting patiently for approval to post.
i've never been a jw.
my husband and daughter are.
Elderlite, you are probably one of the 'good elders'. You probably have your heart in the right place.... That being said: Its not just about the daughter and the material she's reading. For you to make it sound like everyone here is blaming her condition on the things she is reading, well, I think maybe you are not understanding correctly. If you truly are an elder, you would know that everything the average jw reads in the WT and Awake mags (and all the other publications by the WTBS)... its like God's voice coming down from heaven and onto paper.
I have NEVER read in the publications that my reading material is actually, literally God's voice directly being printed on the books that I am reading. But C'mon... that's the whole philosophy of the jw's isn't it? This lady's daughter may have a pre-existing condition to make her paranoid or obsessive . Yes, they really should continue getting help from doctors/psychologists/etc.
Today, welcome to this board. It's true, every story has at least two sides to it. From what I've read from your experience, you are in a tight spot! I'm sorry that your husband has disconnected from you. And I'm sorry that your daughter is going through all of this. I can relate somewhat...I was a teenage Jehovah's Witness who believed that God himself was dictating my every move via the WT and Awake publications. On top of that, I had the elders and those older than me who interpreted how I should live my life. While I recognized they were imperfect, I also believed that God Almighty sent them to dictate me.
I would highly recommend reading the books listed in this thread (Steven Hassan is a wonderful author & counselor)
Best wishes to you
the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.
they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.
" the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.
out of a sense of morbid curiosity, i recently attended the sunday afternoon session of the district convention.
the session consisted of a drama and the infamous "remain in the secret place of the most high" talk.
overall, i got a sense that the wts is in damage control mode because the end hasn't come yet.
But the new and improved definition of a generation has to be the stupidest fu(K!ng thing I've ever heard from the Watchtower.
I keep repeating this sentence over and over and over in my head. I just cannot believe they keep making up new rules as they go along
out of a sense of morbid curiosity, i recently attended the sunday afternoon session of the district convention.
the session consisted of a drama and the infamous "remain in the secret place of the most high" talk.
overall, i got a sense that the wts is in damage control mode because the end hasn't come yet.
Just think about what's written there--it refers to Joseph and all his brothers as "that generation." Now 10 of Josephs brothers witnessed events before Joseph's birth and at least 2 of those brothers lived after his death. So they were of a variety of ages but they were contemporaries and viewed as one "generation."
OMG...did you go to the one in TN? I bet you sat near my family, lol. Question about what I've just highlighted: Do we know the age difference of Joseph and all his brothers? I mean, if TEN of his brothers witnessed events before Joseph's birth, is it possible that there was only ten or twelve years in age difference? And the same goes for for the 2 that lived after he died.
I had a family member explain this to me exactly how you described this, OMG. It...just...doesnt...make....sense. And what the heck is a "contemporary"?
click downloads > digital magazines and download the latest september 2010 watchtower.... look at the last study article, the last picture.
is that barack obama that jesus is destroying???!!!!
it sure looks a lot like him to me.
Looks like he's also destroying Glenn Beck and Stephen Colbert.
Jesus is free to kill Glenn Beck but he better leave Colbert alone!.... & maybe put him on the left with the smiling folks (thats pretty creepy how they're smiling at the peeps on the right)
i don't understand why the elders want this letter so badly ....for one i don't remember signing a contract to become a jehovah's witness ,why do i need to resign ?.
also i was baptised in 1978 before the baptism questions changed , i dedicated myself to god not an organization .
my vow was to follow the direction by holy spirit as revealed to me through the bible, not the watchtower ...... if i belonged to the luthern church and quit going after three yrs they drop your name off the member list ........but if i chose to come to easter or christmas service everyonre would still talk to me i just wouldn't be a member any more .. .
Oh TroubledMind! I didnt realize you were going through all this. I'm sorry. We just had a couple elders come into our home last night & ask the stereotypical "Do you want to be known as a jw? What is your view on pagan holidays such as Christmas? Have any ex-jws tried to contact you?" blah blah blah.
This was my last visit with them. They're so annoying. EVERY word that came out of their mouths, I disagreed with...but my freshly cooked dinner was getting cold on the stove and I decided not to argue, agree, or discuss in depth (yet they still managed to stay almost an hour).
I can't remember: Do you have loved ones still in the jw's? Why would you not want to be df'd or DA?
ps...with your letter that you're sending, I would definitely write, "This is not a letter of disassociation."
are forcing the jw's to quit using facebook.
i absolutely understand why you are doing it....but personally, groups that blatently criticize the jw's have caused the ones closest to me to quit using fb.
that was one of my last outlets to associate with them, and then they quit fb altogether.
are forcing the JW's to quit using Facebook. I absolutely understand why you are doing it....but personally, groups that blatently criticize the JW's have caused the ones closest to me to quit using FB. That was one of my last outlets to associate with them, and then they quit FB altogether. Because of the blatent hate towards the "organization", many hardcore jw's feel like FB is Satan's latest threat. Then again, if you cunningly use thought-provoking questions....they will announce how 'apostates' are using such sneaky ways to get into our loved ones into the world.
Its very frusterating. I think you people who are starting these groups are awesome & I am actually friends with a couple of you on FB . I wonder if you have more people to get out of the Jw's, or if you're just livin' your life, making it known how you feel.
Anyway, just thought I'd state how I feel.... I hate that jw's are a cult. But I also hate that they are going to start announcing at conventions that internet sites such as facebook are dangerous. ....just my lil 2 cents
