Posts by AwSnap

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Rawr....gotta leave the innocent people outta this

by AwSnap in

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so aggravated right now.

my "worldly" uncle is visiting our area and staying with my jw parents.

my siblings live in various parts of my parent's house as well (they are adults, just want cheap rent).

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Hi Zidd! Where's my baby blanket??? lol, Im teasing. Six, I liked your advice...thanks

Update: just to go a lil off topic, I just heard through a friend that my sister thats shunning me is in her 2nd trimester of pregancy. Nice. Nobody told me. My friend said it was just announced on Facebook. Nice. Ohhhhh the glories of shunning.

Anyway, thankfully, my uncle *did* contact me (before I was able to call him) and said he wanted to carve out some time to spend with me & my hubby. I ended up dropping by yesterday around 1p, but he was out with my sister at some jw's house. My father, whose an elder, asked to speak with me. I was asked if I had any desire to reconcile with my sister and husband, since it puts everyone in an awkward position. Apparently, sis's husband was furious that we came over Sunday night for my uncle's arrival. Brother-in-Law was so angry that they had to stay downstairs (it was their choice!!!! They could've joined and we would've been civil!!!). And he thinks my family shouldn't have allowed me & hubby to be there.

WTF....Im so glad (NOT) that he is trying to meddle in the way my own family treats me. It's not enough that he's making my sister shun me...now he's trying to convince the rest of my family to start shunning as well. He told my dad that I gave my sister apostate literature 2 years ago, and that I am trying to have my cake and eat it too. I want to be worldly and yet still have association with my family. (UMMMM, YES. THAT *IS* WHAT I WANT AND FEEL SHOULD BE OKAY). 1st off, how are you supposed to have a conversation with a jw, stating your views of why you no longer believe, without sounding like an apostate? Its impossible. I told my father that I had given my sister some stuff I'd written down to discuss with her, but that every single item I wrote down had references from their own literature. EVERY SINGLE THING. How can he say it was apostate literature when it's THEIR literature??! Jeeeeez, it was 2 years ago, so I can't even remember exactly what it was. But I knew that, if I were to give them "apostate" literature, they'd surely shun me. My intent was *NOT* to be shunned, so I was sure to use ONLY their literature to show why I believe the way I do now. And I didn't have anger in my tone....I was loving and respectful.

Now I'm trying to figure out how to get it across to B-I-L that he needs to quit telling people that I gave them apostate literature. I wish that burr under my saddle B-I-L would just get outta the picture. Ugh.

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Rawr....gotta leave the innocent people outta this

by AwSnap in

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friends

so aggravated right now.

my "worldly" uncle is visiting our area and staying with my jw parents.

my siblings live in various parts of my parent's house as well (they are adults, just want cheap rent).

AwSnap

No, he's a very 'go with the flow' kinda guy. I'll call him in a little bit. Wannabefree, I think that's very good advice. Thank you. Gonna be tough to follow, lol. But you're right

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Rawr....gotta leave the innocent people outta this

by AwSnap in

jw
friends

so aggravated right now.

my "worldly" uncle is visiting our area and staying with my jw parents.

my siblings live in various parts of my parent's house as well (they are adults, just want cheap rent).

AwSnap

I feel like I don't want to call first because that is warning them that I'm coming over, therefore playing their silly game. But I don't want to make innocent people feel uncomfortable either.

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Rawr....gotta leave the innocent people outta this

by AwSnap in

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friends

so aggravated right now.

my "worldly" uncle is visiting our area and staying with my jw parents.

my siblings live in various parts of my parent's house as well (they are adults, just want cheap rent).

AwSnap

So aggravated right now. My "worldly" uncle is visiting our area and staying with my jw parents. my siblings live in various parts of my parent's house as well (they are adults, just want cheap rent). one sibling and her husband are shunning me. If they know I'm coming, they will retreat to another area of the house so they don't have to associate with me. My sister doesn't return phone calls, not that I call her often anymore.

I was left out of the family festivities last night because my sister & husband were at home. That hurt my feelings, but whateva.

I called my uncle this morning and he said he was at a resturant 20 miles away with my sister's husband, and that the rest of the family was on their way. They've also 'claimed' him for the whole afternoon. He's a really good guy, and I'm not sure he knows what's going on between me & my sister.

I have venomous feelings for my sister & her husband...this is so ridiculous. I'm kinda planning on just showing up tomorrow without calling first. My other family would probably be okay with that, but I feel like making my sis look like a dumbass when she retreats while I'm there. But I don't want to put my uncle in the middle of it.

Decisions, decisions......thanks for letting me vent.

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Witnessing to the JW's on my Online Baby Forum

by AwSnap in

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i did not expect myself to do this, as i usually just stay quiet and mind my own business unless someone approaches me about jw's.

as many of you know, i had a baby a few months ago.

on babycentercommunity, a woman titled a thread "i don't believe in halloween".

AwSnap

Not yet

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Witnessing to the JW's on my Online Baby Forum

by AwSnap in

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i did not expect myself to do this, as i usually just stay quiet and mind my own business unless someone approaches me about jw's.

as many of you know, i had a baby a few months ago.

on babycentercommunity, a woman titled a thread "i don't believe in halloween".

AwSnap

Yeah, Rebel, there were quite a few women who chimed in that were clearly not JW's & who didn't observe Halloween. They said the mother

should substitute Disney costumes instead, or go to a Harvest Festival (stuff your average jw wouldn't say). But there were a TON of jw's who chimed

in, stating that they are jw's who are so proud to be individuals and never felt deprived. Ever.

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Witnessing to the JW's on my Online Baby Forum

by AwSnap in

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friends

i did not expect myself to do this, as i usually just stay quiet and mind my own business unless someone approaches me about jw's.

as many of you know, i had a baby a few months ago.

on babycentercommunity, a woman titled a thread "i don't believe in halloween".

AwSnap

I did not expect myself to do this, as I usually just stay quiet and mind my own business unless someone approaches me about jw's. As many of you know, I had a baby a few months ago. On BabyCenterCommunity, a woman titled a thread "I don't believe in Halloween". She never specified whether she is a jw or not, but HOLY MOSES!- a TON of jw's piped in to offer their support. One JW wrote the longest response of all time. What's funny (NOT) is that, what she wrote was VERBATUM what we were all trained to say. You know what I'm talking about: "I was NEVER deprived. We ALWAYS had celebrations in our home. We didn't wait for a special day to play dress-up or to receive presents. My parents bought me presents throughout the year. ALLLLL THE TIME (yada yada yada)"

Well, that was the last straw for me. I thought, Why the heck would a jw post something like this on a WORLDLY site, trying to get support for her views on not wanting her husband to take their new daughter trick or treating? I realized that she was probably just phishing for other jw's to come out of the wood work to offer their support.

After a few mild comments from me, I just posted for people to check out: www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/wrong-with-being-jehovahs-witness.php I said: If you were going to buy a new car, would you ONLY trust what the car dealer was telling you? No, you would check out Carfax and Consumer Reports, right? Even if these had some negative things to say about the car you wanted, at least you'd be able to make an informed and educated decision.

I also expressed to the current jw's that I know it's really scary, but they are welcome to pm me on that board and I'd keep my answers as upfront as possible. I promised not to be a sneaky, conniving "A".

lol....I feel good for what I did. Maybe I'll become the next Tim Murry or Randy. LOL

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Will the door to door presentation ever change?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

i haven't been out in door to door service in years.

my name is rules and this is brother john.

we are in your area today talking to your neighbors and asking this important question.

AwSnap

I don't know the answer to your question, but it made me laugh...and then I thought about what I used to say:

First off, MUST compliment SOMETHING about the person's home: "Hi! What beautiful flowers you have! It must be soooo much work keeping those up! (And then bring up something to do with whatever I just complimented). "Wouldn't it be nice to have flowers that lasted because the weather is beautiful all year round? No earthquakes or fires or thunderstorms that kill plants and people? Well, speaking of the end of the world, let me share this good news. In this Awake magazine (and then flip to the inside cover to show the topics that I literally was looking at for the first time because I hadn't actually READ the mags), it talks about how we will one day enjoy beautiful flowers just like yours forever and ever. Wouldn't that be nice?"

LOL....it makes me sick that I actually said stuff like that!!!!

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New to this site. Scared, Lonely and in a lot of pain due to shunning by my family.

by wonder*woman in

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this is my very first post to this forum.

i am begging for some much needed encouragment and support by those who are kind hearted and know exactly the pain shunning causes.

i am a 30 year old former jehovah's witness and a mother of two beautiful girls.

AwSnap

I am just 2 years older than you, and can relate immensly . It sucks. While it may always suck a bit in that aspect, there will be so much more happiness coming your way, if you open yourself up to it. You have a lot of support on this board.

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I need support please

by AwSnap in

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for the most part, i am able to understand how my family treats me.

i was a jw for 20 years...since birth.

i used to shun people.

AwSnap

Thank you! She is now 3 weeks old & weighs 8lbs 12oz. Was 7lbs 8oz at birth. I know she can't control it, but her laughs and smiles are so stinkin' cute!