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BTW- have any of you had your...
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TD, what all translations say is OBVIOUS, you try to spin it.
Booby- that depends on what you MEAN by "divine"! (People have manufactured many definitions)
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BTS says:"Angel means messenger, but angels are a type of creature."
Mad: And where did you see THAT in the Bible?
"Humans are not angels, even when they act as messengers. When a human acts as a messenger for God, he is called a "prophet."
Mad: True...but ALSO as "angel"- see Revelation Ch 2.
Excerts from you quote of Heb 1-
"God, has set you above your companions"- Did One of Three Gods set One of another Gods above the other two Gods? This shows as all the OTHER scriptures do that the ONLY true God Jesus served exalted him, and rewarded him. No returning to Godhood.
"To which of the angels did God EVER say..." - Was this being said to belittle angels? To show that Two Supreme Beings were now calling a Thrid one "Son"? ONLY in CHURCHianity! It was an emphasis on the unique honor and reward being given to the Ultimate Messenger of God, now given the name "Jesus".
There's MORE -
Heb 1:1 - God, having of old time spoken unto the fathers in the prophets by divers portions and
in divers manners,
2 - hath at the end of these days spoken unto us in his Son, whom he appointed
> NOTICE: APPOINTED. AND the distinction.
heir of all things, through
> NOTICE: THROUGH
whom also he made the worlds;
3 - who being the effulgence
[def= radiant splendor : brilliance] of his
glory, and the very image of his substance, and
upholding all things by the word of his power,
> NOTICE: It's by God's Power! And he is the IMAGE of God, not one of three 'Almighties'
when he had made purification of sins, sat
down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
4 - having become by so much better than the
> NOTICE: Having BECOME so much better! At the RIGHT HAND of God- not ONE of the Gods
angels, as he hath inherited a more excellent
name than they.
>Notice: This wasn't always his name!
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I thought so- all hot air- and no balloon...
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Izzat the best you can do? What Transaltion do YOU feel is more accurate; please NAME one!
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Bos said "I'd love to see theMadJW comment on this thread:
Mad: Too messy; quotes from unknown sources, arrogant blahtherings, etc.- go ahead and ask whatever you want HERE!
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Booby, Jesus "was" God, as MOSES "was"- Exodus 7:1.
Three Supreme Beings were NOT being referred to. The title "god" and "lord" are similar (in Koine Greek- it is all caps, no distinction of fonts)
"And Jehovah said to Moses, See, I have made thee God to Pharaoh; and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet."- Darby
The Word's...words...were staright from the One he served, thus the Word 'WAS" God! The context of the ENTIRE BOOK completely kills off the Trinity Fable!
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Jesus is the Ultimate Messenger (Angel) since he is the WORD of God, and Archangel (Leader of the Angels).
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BTS asked:" For the 3rd time on this thread alone. Is Jesus a Human/Angel hybred?
In John 6 Jesus says: "I am the living bread that came down out of heaven". What came down? "
Mad: Sorry- I didn't think you were being SERIOUS! By "Hybrid" it appears you think of angels as some kind of creature-thing...hopefully not the fat, winged babies from your Momma Church!
God, Christ, and angels are all beings of SPIRIT ("breath, wnd" in Hebrew & Greek)
The Term "angel" is NOT a reference to some kind of species- but to a POSITION. These spirits are MESSENGERS!
So- did a God/Man appear? ONLY according to CHURCHianity.
Did a human messenger (angel) appear? Yes, indeed! Revelation 2 even REFERS to elders in the congregations as such!
NEXT!
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How about telling us a Translation YOU 'think' is more accurate?