LOLOLOLO!
Sorry to disappoint you, Denial: I am a 100% genuine JW- and HAVE been for well over 30 years!
Nice- but corny, PS graphic!
are there pretenders in our brotherhood- as in all religion- that do what is evil?.
yes.. have we made stupid guesses about some of the prophecies, as all churches do?.
yes.. does our "organization" make mistakes- as, you guessed it, all do?.
LOLOLOLO!
Sorry to disappoint you, Denial: I am a 100% genuine JW- and HAVE been for well over 30 years!
Nice- but corny, PS graphic!
are there pretenders in our brotherhood- as in all religion- that do what is evil?.
yes.. have we made stupid guesses about some of the prophecies, as all churches do?.
yes.. does our "organization" make mistakes- as, you guessed it, all do?.
"how do you explain pulling up the sheets with the UN from 1991-2000 as a United Nations DGI/NGO?"
Not very discreet, eh?
However, no political involvement; likely to learn what they are UP to.
YOUR spin? Why WERE they there?
are there pretenders in our brotherhood- as in all religion- that do what is evil?.
yes.. have we made stupid guesses about some of the prophecies, as all churches do?.
yes.. does our "organization" make mistakes- as, you guessed it, all do?.
Agnos- I'm talking the Truth- NOT speculation on the prophecies.
The Truth about God stands on itrs own- JWs or NO JWs.
Fact is CHURCHianity despises truth as much as you do Us!
are there pretenders in our brotherhood- as in all religion- that do what is evil?.
yes.. have we made stupid guesses about some of the prophecies, as all churches do?.
yes.. does our "organization" make mistakes- as, you guessed it, all do?.
And your Theology is just as goofy!
are there pretenders in our brotherhood- as in all religion- that do what is evil?.
yes.. have we made stupid guesses about some of the prophecies, as all churches do?.
yes.. does our "organization" make mistakes- as, you guessed it, all do?.
Agnonus stated: " Now if only the WT would ever actually learn to APOLOGIZE for their mistakes... like the rest of us do..."
I AGREE! They, as we ALL will, will have to answer for themselves; I do not follow THEM, nor believe their self-proclamtion of being the FDS.
I find it hard to imagine how the faithful in Israel endured FAR worse mistakes- and even EVIL- of some of their kings...but they DID; we can do no LESS; for to wait for an 'Organization' without flaw, is to await a Fantasy!
are there pretenders in our brotherhood- as in all religion- that do what is evil?.
yes.. have we made stupid guesses about some of the prophecies, as all churches do?.
yes.. does our "organization" make mistakes- as, you guessed it, all do?.
Are there pretenders in our Brotherhood- as in all religion- that do what is evil?
Yes.
Have we made stupid guesses about some of the prophecies, as all churches do?
Yes.
Does our "Organization" make mistakes- as, you GUESSED it, all do?
Yes.
It's called being human. If one leaves a faith because of a bad example- there'd BE no faith on Earth!
Do we get involved in politics, support what God defines as immorality, have a paid clergy in each congregation, teach God a trio of Sadists ('Hellfire'), that Satan told Eve the TRUTH- that we never really die ('immortal' soul), etc?
NO.
So, all you Hot Air Balloons are mere entertainment for me; the Topics like "Scriptures ignored by JWs", and "the Warped New World Translation" show just how deceptive many of you are- and how completely ignorant!
Soooooo-thanks for the entertainment...and the rare, occaisional objection that gets me thinking!
And don't forget www.theMadJWs,com, for some REAL info!
the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.
they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.
" the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.
Still waiting to hear of a scripture we ignore....
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!
the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.
they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.
" the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.
This is tiring reading such ignorance- let's skip to the end:
"10. Luke 1:46-49
“And Mary said, ‘My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for he has regarded the low estate of his handmaiden. For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed; for he who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is his name.’”
Finally the hardest hurdle for so many Protestant converts to get over: our Blessed Mother Mary. For most of my life, the only place Mary came into the picture was at Christmas—and dare I say, as a statue! But I never referred to her as “blessed.” Yet Scripture says all generations will call her blessed. Why wasn’t I? This led me to see other verses for the first time, including John 17 where from the cross Jesus giave his mother into the keeping of John, rather than any supposed siblings, and by grace I began, in imitation of my Lord and Savior and eternal brother Jesus, to recognize her, too, as my loving Mother. "
Mad:Sweet Baby-God Jesus, what nonsense! Mary is NOT your mother....poor churchoid!
the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.
they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.
" the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.
6. Revelation 14:13
And I heard a voice from heaven saying, "Write this: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord henceforth." "Blessed indeed," says the Spirit, "that they may rest from their labors, for their deeds follow them!"
For years, as a Calvinist preacher, I recited this verse in every funeral graveside service. I believed and taught sola fide and discounting any place for works in the process of our salvation. But then, after my last funeral service as a minister, a family member of the deceased cornered me. He asked, with a tremble in his voice, “What did you mean that Bill’s deeds follow him?” I don’t remember my response, but this was the first time I became aware of what I had been saying. This began a long study on what the New Testament and then the Early Church Fathers taught about the mysterious but necessary synergistic connection between our faith and our works.
Another Revelation! heh
You mean Christians actually DID SOMETHING?
(Other than paying clergy to teach coprolite???)
the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.
they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.
" the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.
5. Matthew 16:13-19
Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesare’a Philip’pi, he asked his disciples, “Who do men say that the Son of man is?” And they said, “Some say John the Baptist, others say Eli’jah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” Simon Peter replied, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jona! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”
There is so much to discuss in this verse, so much I never saw. I always knew that Catholics used this to argue Petrine authority but I wasn’t convinced. To the naively ignorant, the English words “Peter” and “rock” are so different that it’s obvious that Jesus was referring to the faith Simon Peter received as a gift from the Father. For the more informed seminary educated Bible students, like myself, I knew that behind the English was the Greek, where one discovered that Peter is the translation of petros, meaning little pebble, and rock is the translation of petra, large boulder. Again an obvious disconnect, so so for years I believed and taught specifically against Petrine authority. Then, through the reading of Karl Keating’s wonderful book, Catholicism and Fundamentalism, I realized the implications of something I knew all along: behind the Greek was the Aramaic which Jesus originally spoke, in which the word for Peter and rock are identical—kepha. Once I saw that Jesus had said essentially “You are kepha and on this kepha I will build my Church,” I knew I was in trouble.
That's for sure- for the scriptures say JESUS is the foundation, the rock. He was telling Peter that his Power and Authority would COME from himself- not that Peter put on a funny hat, fancy robes, and have a giant building constructed!