Posts by AMNESIANO

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Just had a former elder friend tell me, “This Overlapping generation is crap.

by John Aquila in

last night i ran into a former elder friend, he is in his late 70s.

he asked how i was doing and i asked how he was doing.

then out of the blue he tells me; .

AMNESIANO

OneEyedJoe insightfully observed:

It's possible that they're just doing what they think they're supposed to be doing. I bet a healthy percentage (at least of the ones that have two brain cells to rub together are praising it because that's just what you do. In the back of their mind though, something just isn't right. As an example - I've had a bad knee due to an injury for about 12 years now. No matter what the doctors did I was left with frequent knee pain. When people would ask me about a recent surgery I would often say "It'll sure be nice in the new system when I have someone working on it that knows what they're doing!" At the time I was at a low point (in hindsight I was sooooo close to waking up) in my belief and as I said the words it just made me feel worse because I knew that it was a delusion. But I said it, and I acted cheerful about it because that's what was expected of me. Social pressure is a bitch. People could be praising it now hoping that they'll figure it out, but once they realize that their inability to make sense of it isn't their fault, the story will start to change.

Hit squarely on the nail's head!

Similar to yourself, I disingenuously persisted in chirping the cult line all the while I was mentally strategizing my checkout following the first highly-insulting reiteration of "generation" back in late 1995. I even commented during that very Watchtower Study while inwardly seething.

We should never deceive (and depress!) ourselves by supposing we awakened ones are so much smarter than those still giving the appearance of being mentally trapped merely because they dutifully continue to mouth the mantras. Many are just like we were--keeping their powder dry as they contemplate the best way and right time to make their escape.

AMNESIAN

Captive 7/1972 - 2/2001

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More Inspiring Young Awakenings

by freemindfade in

i just found these vidoes on youtube, maybe you have seen them already, but i thought i would share.

these canadian kids for me are courageous and inspiring.

more excellent public examples of non vitrial apostate awakening.

AMNESIANO

I would very much like to hear from Christian more specifically what exactly were some of the doubts he mentioned that he'd had even before discovering the Watchtower's association with the UN as an NGO.

Also, it might be useful to know specifically how and with what subjects he approached his wife that proved so effective; and whether her love for and trust in her husband were the sole reasons she considered what he was telling her rather than immediately turning him in as his brother did. Had she been suppressing doubts of her own?

Great couple. Very hopeful content in this video. Thanks for posting.

AMNESIAN

Captive 7/1972 - 2/2001

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4 New BOEs just Arrived!

by Atlantis in

4 boes just arrived and we appreciate our informants assistance... click the links below and then click the green download button.. .. 2015 april 6, boe (re: electronic convention program and convention releases).

.. http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/gqk7qat.

.. .. .. 2015 april 21, boe (re: programme for special meeting with headquarters representatives).

AMNESIANO

Wild_Thing:

Silly! It's a biblical number with incredible significance! You see ... 2 and 4 represent the 2nd and 4th book of the bible, specifically Exodus (6 letters) and Numbers (7 letters). 6 x 7 = 42. If you take the inverse of that (representing the flip flop of doctrines), you get 24. See? It makes perfect sense.

For one brief agonizing moment you transported me back to a 70s-80s era book study...[shudder].

Brilliant.

AMNESIAN

Captive 7/1972 - 2/2001

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2015 March 17, BOE!

by Atlantis in

2015 march 17, boe.

(this boe goes along with the march 15 boe concerning circuit overseer visits)... click the link below and then click the green download button.. .. http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/29sj8bh.

.. .. atlantis!.

AMNESIANO

Looks like the reference is not so much to the insert as ultimately to the Shepherding textbook.

Thx again, Brother Atlantis...very much appreciated.

AMNESIAN

Captive 7/1972 - 2/2001

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2015 March 17, BOE!

by Atlantis in

2015 march 17, boe.

(this boe goes along with the march 15 boe concerning circuit overseer visits)... click the link below and then click the green download button.. .. http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/29sj8bh.

.. .. atlantis!.

AMNESIANO

Thx Atlantis. What a tremendous service you provide.

In the tenth point on page 1, a reference to the Shepherding textbook, chapter 3, par- agraphs 6-10, has been inserted. This will serve as a reminder of the need for elders to make sure they have full and complete information regarding brothers being rec- ommended for appointment, especially in the circumstances noted in the reference.

Any chance of posting the reference insert mentioned here?

AMNESIAN

Captive 7/1972 - 2/2001

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[REPOST] Memorial Non-Attendance: The Single Most Impactful TTATT Witness to Family and Friends

by AMNESIANO in

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(originally posted march, 2014)anyone who has awakened to ttatt and has conscientiously left the organization--especially a once-prominent, highly-regarded, studious believer from a prominent multi-generational tribe of jws-- after decades of devout, high-profile "serve-us," who continues to put in an annual appearance at the memorial thoroughly subverts and undermines, by this one act, any hope s/he may entertain that his/her departure will stir family or former friends to question the whole watchtower bamboozle.

by this one concession s/he assigns him-/herself by every single jw to their handy and dimissive purgatory: the "spiritually-weak.".

nothing blasts a louder, clearer, and more deliberate message to the jws who personally knew you and those familiar with your jw bona fides that you are not merely "not making the meetings," "inactive," or "spiritually-weak," but that there is a conscientious reason you have rejected the entire watchtower society life than choosing to forego what they know you once believed to be jehovah's must-attend, one-and-only, holy/sacred event of the year for his people, the lord's evening meal.. you hand them the very justification they so relish to self-righteously label you as a "submarine witness" deserving of jehovah's, and more importantly, their judgement.

AMNESIANO

(Originally posted March, 2014)

Anyone who has awakened to TTATT and has conscientiously left the organization--especially a once-prominent, highly-regarded, studious believer from a prominent multi-generational tribe of JWs-- after decades of devout, high-profile "serve-us," who continues to put in an annual appearance at the Memorial thoroughly subverts and undermines, by this one act, any hope s/he may entertain that his/her departure will stir family or former friends to question the whole Watchtower bamboozle. By this one concession s/he assigns him-/herself by every single JW to their handy and dimissive purgatory: the "spiritually-weak."

Nothing blasts a louder, clearer, and more deliberate message to the JWs who personally knew you and those familiar with your JW bona fides that you are not merely "not making the meetings," "inactive," or "spiritually-weak," but that there is a conscientious reason you have rejected the entire Watchtower Society life than choosing to forego what they know you once believed to be Jehovah's must-attend, one-and-only, holy/sacred event of the year for his people, the Lord's Evening Meal.

You hand them the very justification they so relish to self-righteously label you as a "submarine Witness" deserving of Jehovah's, and more importantly, their judgement.

Much more tragically, though, you squander your prize opportunity to nudge thinking ones to seriously ponder the possible reason for your shocking departure. Again, all accomplished without any confrontational unpleasantness.

Attending the Watchtower's Lord's Evening Meal, though likely well-intentioned or for many understandably unavoidable at present, is a colossally misguided go-along-to-get-along concession for anyone whose intention or desire it is to awaken others to TTATT.

AMNESIAN
Captive 7/1972 - 2/2001
Last Memorial attendance: April 8, 2001

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Happy - Bethelites Song...

by thedepressedsoul in

uh, i'm speechless... is this the same religion against tight pants, colored socks, df etc...?.

i think i'm in two religions... .

this video also looks very familiar, did they steal something from the apostates?

AMNESIANO

Well, I'll be damn. 😏

AMNESIAN

Captivity: 7/1972 - 2/2001

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Prince on Saturday Night Live

by designs in

did you catch it.. http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/watch-princes-electric-prformance-from-tonights-saturd-1653735759.

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AMNESIANO

"Your comment reveals that even you do not believe the R&F have much influence."

What I may or may not believe is impossible for you to have any inkling whatsoever. But, more to the point, it is entirely irrelevant to this exchange. I speak of what I know for a fact occurred and why, with no need to depend on what I or anyone else believes.

The factual MJ account offers quite the intriguing insight into surprising and unexpected ways, at least to me, the leadership of this corporation strategized in specific aspects of its oversight and with regard to its attempts at rehabbing its stature among the faithful in that precarious decade following its failed 1975 prophecy and "The Great Apostasy."

"WT responds only to threats to its public image. It doesn't give a damn about internal rumblings from the R&F. Please post evidence of any major policy change WT has made based on popular opinion among JWs."

Lol! A not very clever attempt to twist the subject. Nobody's claiming any change in any kind of policy, major or otherwise. I speak of judicial cases in which the WTS has felt forced to act in response to R&F outcry. Confused much?

Still, if I deigned to indulge your mangled challenge, my favorite might involve an incident (and subsequent judicial case) a few years before the MJ events regarding (the specific # I will not disclose) other very popular and regarded JW celebrities who transgressed--according to petty JW rules & regs--on a highly-visible entertainment forum. The WTS was more than content to overlook the matter until the local circuit's R&F refused to relent in their ripping their outer garments in vocal demand for HQ action.

I'll offer no more detail, but am obliged to repeat that you are either misinformed, inexperienced in matters such as these, or perhaps merely naïve.

But it's your right to think what you will. It's with no small amount of pride I submit that I am well and truly past any compulsion to whip out my spouse's and my JW bona fides to measure whose is...[ahem]...longer, if you will, in the competition to impress ex-JWs.

I'm happy to let you "win," Shirl. Continue to have it your way, friend, no hard feelings.

AMNESIAN

Captive 7/1972 - 2/2001

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Prince on Saturday Night Live

by designs in

did you catch it.. http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/watch-princes-electric-prformance-from-tonights-saturd-1653735759.

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AMNESIANO

With respect, I am aware of considerably more about what transpired than "a little about" from a friend in Cali.

Although there was certainly more to the MJ saga than JW uproar, that uproar certainly did create a huge headache for the Society they finally could not disregard. You're quite misinformed if you believe the WTS did not respond to certain members' outcries, even back in the day.

AMNESIAN

Captive 7/1972 - 2/2001

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Prince on Saturday Night Live

by designs in

did you catch it.. http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/watch-princes-electric-prformance-from-tonights-saturd-1653735759.

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AMNESIANO

Of course Prince was wearing a wig. He's too old now to grow hair to that length and fullness.

As for the Society's "seeing past MJ's $$$ to warn him," nothing of the kind happened. It was the relentless outrage on the part of resentful, working-stiff rank and file JWs that forced their hand. They did everything they possibly could to keep him within the fold and his cash flowing in until they and he had no choice but to part fellowship.

AMNESIAN

Captive 7/1972 - 2/2001