Posts by Fernando

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Do we know for sure what happens after death?

by Yondaime in

christian denominations say we go to heaven, witness say we stay alseep until ressurection.

quran says when we go we grt 72 virgins, unless we blow some people up.. .

i'm not really concerned with death atm, i'm not dead.

Fernando

@Yondaime

"I want to have faith in god but I don't see any evidence that proves he exists."

According to Romans 10:17, and according to my personal experience, Faith (a wide opening of higher dimensions and realities to our spiritual eyes) is a "free gift" that results from setting aside religion, and instead sincerely pursuing the map (hidden in plain sight throughout scripture), which is known variously as:

the 5 solas (of the reformation)
the liberating gospel of grace
the plan/message/map of salvation
the plan/message/map of liberation
the plan/message/map of reconciliation
the plan/message/map of restoration
imputed righteousness (justification)
imputed holiness (sanctification)
bissar (in Hebrew), injil/injeel (in Arabic/Urdu/Quran)

None of the priceless "free gifts" attached to this plan/message/map can be earned, deserved or paid for. This creates a very level playing field that anyone can choose to step onto at any time, without reference to any human/s or organisation/s.

By the way, this plan/message/map was revealed to Abraham who was not a Jew, Christian, or Muslim, although all these groups see him as their earthly spiritual father.

Abraham was also not a religionist.

Some reading that may help (in the Message Bible): Romans, Introduction to Galatians, Galatians.

Best wishes on life's journey.

Fernando

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Am I the youngest one on here?

by Capstone in

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i finally registered on here after reading on the forum for almost two years on and off (more often the last year).

to give you some background on who i am i can say that i'm a girl in my late teens and live in western europe.

my mom is a jw and my dad is not.

Fernando

Hi and welcome Capstone.

There have been a fair number your age and sometimes even younger, who have awoken to the lies and falsehoods of (this) religion. On JWN they are probably the minority.

According to a PEW study though, around 2 out of every 3 brought up as JWs, no longer follow the Watchtower organisation.

Many of us wish we had also awoken at an earlier age and made better use of our youth.

It would probably be very wise to keep your thoughts to yourself when you are with religionists who are not ready or mature enough to deal with viewpoints that threaten their myopic (small) and intransigent (hard to shift) worldview or mindset.

Personally I am delighted that my awakening (although later in life) has allowed me to see how any and all religion is hostile (in varying degrees) to genuine/organic faith and spirituality based on the 5 solas (of the reformation).

Religion is about hierarchies, power, control, fear of death, clericalism, magisterium, hypocrisy, self-righteousness, works-righteousness, dogma, sectarianism, fundamentalism, irrationality, legalism, moralism, conservatism, and apostasy.

The liberating gospel of grace was designed specifically to set us free from all these things (and is therefore surreptitiously resisted and obfuscated by religion/ists).

At any rate, I wish you wisdom, success, prosperity and happiness on life's challenging journey.

Greetings

Fernando

South East Queensland, Australia

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What are the ODDS Jehovah's Witnesses are the ONLY TRUE religion?

by Terry in

the entire organization shoves all its chips into the center of the table on one bet: they are the only mouthpiece of god on earth.. what are the odds to this bet?.

the statistic for christian denominations make jw's 1 out of 41,000 opinions.. a chance of 1 in 41 thousand is a tough bet.. _________________________.

if abc tv broadcasts shark tank and your tv receives mister ed .

Fernando

Great summary Terry.

Personally, I have come to conclude that ALL "religion is a snare and a racket" as Judge Rutherford explained in his books Enemies (1937) and Religion (1940).

On that basis the Watchtower is definitely a front-runner.

They push religion to the max (apostate legalism, apostate moralism, supremacist ethnocentrism/doctrine, supremacist religious Gnosticism).

Therefore for me the Watchtower is indeed one of the TRUEST snares and rackets (religions).

No religion I know of, has accomplished more in telling their followers they are "publishers of the Good News" whilst deliberately keeping them ignorant of this same "Good News".

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Jehovah's INEFFECTIVE Witness...(Why no TV ministry???)

by Terry in

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what if i asserted the following as true?

the watchtower bible and tract society has no interest in an effective evangelical program of conversion.. would that sound silly?

disfellowshipping would lead to having a big target placed on the ex jw's back at armageddon.. .

Fernando

Maybe Terrymiah should be claiming royalties from GB 2.0?

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"When you see the disgusting thing"... (let the reader use descernment)

by Ish Elon in

it is widely known that the roman army was the disgusting thing in the 1st century.

examine the statements below: 1. the dt was within the 1st century governing body in jerusalem.

take a look at the picture of apostles and elders in the "insight" book.

Fernando

Welcome Ish Elon.

What unky punky said in his first post.

For many of us it takes a lot of courage to make our first post on a site like this, heart pounding, palms sweating and more as we battle cognitive dissonance and the enemies of transformation and wakening.

Ish, hopefully you are able to get through the rough patches, stick around, and share your evolving journey with those that have gone before.

Humour and humility can go a long way...

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I Would Like To Know Exactly What JWs Believe Or Not Believe In

by minimus in

i hear people saying it is not the same religion that i knew.

what is the major difference?.

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Fernando

JWs will believe anything the GB (Sanhedrin) tell them.

Of course only until the penny drops that these "fine upstanding" persons are nothing of the sort, but instead malicious purveyors of apostate clericalism and magisterium.

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consciencious objection.

by zeb in

it seems in some countries brothers subject to military call-up can accept non military service instead but in others as in korea they regularly go to jail.. are they offered alternative service in korea ?.

in the book "i wept by the rivers of babylon" by terry walstrom, the author gives clear insights into the ever changing wts opinions on this matter at least in the us.. can anyone enlighten me.. please?.

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Fernando

At one point (around 1984 I believe) the Watchtower Organisation accepted alternative service provided it was under a criminal conviction.

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The "Good Cop/Bad Cop" Alternating GB Theory

by ILoveTTATT in

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Fernando

I have found it useful to assign opposing views expressed in the Watchtower publications to opposing factions.

( http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/246453/1/Opposing-salvation-factions-in-the-Schizophrenic-and-Apostate-Watchtower )

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Up yours!!! Jw religion!!

by Julia Orwell in

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i just got a job teaching in a school run by moderate muslims.

the students are muslim and do their prayers at school and have daily quran lessons.

my job is to teach art, english literacy and literature, and history.

Fernando

Congratulations Julia, I'm sure you'll have a blast, and be surprised just how moderate and normal most people can be despite religion.

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Does the bible have a central theme? Does it prove inspiration?

by GreenhornChristian in

does the bible have a central theme?.

there seems to be a general consensus throughout christian religions that there is a consistent theme throughout the bible.

the seeming evidence of a theme coming from a collection of books written by over 40 different authors over a period of 1500 years is what givse credence to the claim that the bible is an inspired literary work.

Fernando

Personally I have found the central message (or theme) of scripture to be the legal custody battle, over us the children, fought by means of controlling religion versus the liberating gospel message of grace.

Religion	Gospel OT/NT	Main Book/s
Death	Salvation	Psalms/Acts/Romans
Enmity	Atonement/Reconciliation	Leviticus/Rom/2Cor
Bondage	Deliverance/Liberation	Exodus/Galatians
Decay	Restoration	Isaiah/Ezekiel/Hosea