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  If someone asked you, 'Are you a righteous person'? What would be your answer?

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what would be your answer?

  are you are a righteous person?

  on a scale of 1-10, how righteous do you feel you are?.

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  Fernando

  Truth be told if I had to rely on my own merits or works my scores would be dismal and not worth publishing.
  

  The fellow with the thick red file in this video is me:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrLzYw6ULYw
  
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  If someone asked you, 'Are you a righteous person'? What would be your answer?

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what would be your answer?

  are you are a righteous person?

  on a scale of 1-10, how righteous do you feel you are?.

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  Fernando

  I am also one of the holy ones spoken of in scripture. I score 10/10.
  

  Again this clean standing before God is a "free gift" available to any that would accept it as such.

  We have a clean standing imputed to us (sanctification).

  Once again, at Jesus' death his holiness was imputed to us, and our dysfunction (aka sin) was imputed to him (2 Corinthians 5:21).
  

  This whole thing creates a very level playing field where no one has special merit or authority that can be legitimately used to create a hierarchy or a clergy class.

  In fact this astounding aspect of the "Good News" or gospel message totally obliterates all of the Watchtower's favourite idols: a two class clergy/laity system, a powerful hierarchy, a powerful organisation, religion, legalism, moralism and more.

  In fact once we accept Jesus as mediator we as ordinary folk get to deal direct - no human middlemen needed ever.
  
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  If someone asked you, 'Are you a righteous person'? What would be your answer?

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what would be your answer?

  are you are a righteous person?

  on a scale of 1-10, how righteous do you feel you are?.

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  Fernando

  Fantastic question Esse quam videri.

  One that humans struggle with in the absence of a perfect standard of righteousness.

  When measured against such a standard we all fall short.

  How far?

  A lot.

  Even when we think we are doing well (Isa 64:6).

  I believe that was Jesus' point regarding adultery.

  If memory serves me right, he was talking to a friendly audience who thought they might be doing well according to their interpretation of the standard (the Mosaic Law).

  Then he pointed out that even looking with a passion meant one fell short of the standard. That probably includes almost everyone on planet earth.

  To answer your question though: I believe I am righteous in God's sight. I score 10/10.
  

  How so, given the above (the fact that I fall far short of, and cannot attain the perfect standard of righteousness)?

  I have received the "free gift" of imputed righteousness (justification).

  At Jesus death, my dysfunction (aka sin) was imputed to him, and his righteousness was imputed to me (2 Corinthians 5:21).

  If one marks every occurrence of the word righteous/ness in Paul's letters and summarises, he is talking exactly about this very thing.

  The Watchtower of course denies that all men can be declared righteous as a "free gift", and instead need to become and remain a member of, and in good standing with their apostate religious organisation and hierarchy, and somehow earn, work, deserve or pay for an unattainable right standing with God.

  To this end they have tampered with scriptures like Romans 5:18 and 1 Timothy 2:4 which is easily established by comparing the NWT with the KIT (both by Watchtower).
  
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  My father is a f*****g a*****e

  by Butyoucanneverleave in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is my first post.

  i just had to get that statement off of my chest!

  my father is one cold hearted judge mental, hypocritical, piece of s**t. i hate this religion and what it has done to my family!

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  Fernando

  Welcome Butyoucanneverleave.
  

  Many here have been through similar and will understand - I'm glad you found us.

  Many here will confirm there is definitely hope and a better future for us whose eyes have opened.

  Yes it is initially heartbreaking to see our favourite religion for what it really is.

  And the Watchtower excels at ruining families without the families realising. Such is the power of propaganda - just ask Hitler.
  

  Best wishes on JWC and your future

  Fernando
  
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  California Attorney Tries to Pass a Ballot Advocating Genocide for Gays

  by Village Idiot in

  1. social
  2. current

  this ballot initiative put forth by matt mclaughlin, an attorney in southern california, would allow for the execution of gays by bullets to the head.

  mclaughlin has to gather 365,000 signatures to put it up for a vote.

  i'm in favor of gay rights but in my opinion this despicable ballot should make it to a vote knowing that it absolutely will not pass in order to publicize the demented mentality of fundamentalist christians in the united states.

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  Fernando

  Yup, shine a light on centuries old religious bigotry, prejudice, ignorance and hypocrisy that is alive and well today.

  This person makes the Pharisees look like moderates.

  Could it be his ilk who spawned ISIS?
  

  Hard proof that spiritual blindness is a real condition with sometimes severe symptoms.
  
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  Lost but now found : This site and update on life

  by Louise in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been searching for this for ages.

  it just seemed to have fallen off the net or was down in south africa - couldn't find links or anything.

  was really weird.. the site looks clean, i miss the old site however.

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  Fernando

  Good on you Louise, it sounds as if life in South Africa is increasingly challenging for white and black alike.

  Greetings

  Fernando
  
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  JW child taken out of hospital - now cured of cancer

  by Xanthippe in

  1. social
  2. current

  jw child cured according to bbc this morning.

  if you remember the child's parents took him out of the southampton, uk hospital against the doctors' advice to have proton beam therapy for his brain tumour in prague.

  interesting follow-up article..

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  Fernando

  Arrested for choosing an alternative therapy?

  Something very wrong with those who saw the parents' choice, free will, and informed consent, as criminal and chose to hound them in their darkest hour.

  Well done to the parents for how they conducted themselves.

  Maybe the parents should sue for malicious and wrongful arrest, along with gross incompetence?
  
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  Dating After Leaving?

  by Garrett in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  hey guys,.

  this is going to be a topic of a different nature.

  so, while i am not looking to date at the current moment since i'm still trying to figure out who i am and what i want life, i do want to start dating in the near future.. my issue is that i've been in for almost all my life and it's left a big hole when it comes to my romantic life.. i was wondering, after leaving, did any of you date?

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  Fernando

  As you are saying, once you have established a new identity, dating will be much easier.

  In the meantime just friends?

  For me personally spiritual identity is the most important, and other differences less so.
  
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  JW's caught laughing at Child rapist accusers"

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  jwvictims has done an excellent but disturbing article on how jw's feel about the child abuse problem.. http://jwvictims.org/2013/11/23/jehovahs-witnesses-caught-laughing-at-child-rape-accusers/.

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  Fernando

  The

  JW

  VICTIMS

  .ORG

  logo

  is a keeper.

  http://jwvictims.org/flyers-publications/
  
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  15 Years of Jehovahs-Witness.com

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  yes, today is the forum's 15th birthday!.

  i never thought for one moment that it would survive this long or have so many people post so many great subjects over the years.. it is still humbling when i get pm's or emails from people expressing how the site has helped them and of course thanks goes to all the posters who have shared their experiences and make helpful and supportive comments to others who are in the sometimes difficult process of learning the real truth about 'the truth'.. the site has gone through several different incarnations over the last 15 years running on different platforms, different databases and different hosts but we've been able to keep all the old topics.

  the current site is still being developed and i'm hoping to push another major upgrade soon.. i also may have some other news to share soon about the future of the site so stay posted.. until then, here's the the next 15 years!

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  Fernando

  Happy birthday, and a big thank you to Simon and family for this enduring labour of love, that generously serves thousands without a Watchtower agenda (glory, power, control, authority, money, property, worship).

  Thank you for a safe space where we can journey with others whilst restoring our sanity.

  Long live JWC.