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  Can GB be guilty of sinning against Holy Spirit

  by Chook in

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  the crime is ,condoning the removal of and shunning of jw children ,who when older want to express freedom of religion and attend another church.

  god created family unit ,gb destroys lives on all levels of family tree.

  can this be the unforgivable sin?.

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  Fernando

  For me the GB's rejecting the Holy Spirit's testimony of the gospel of grace as demonic apostasy comes pretty close...
  
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  I have made my own website

  by The freewheeling in

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  i have for some time been writing critical articles about different topics related to jehovah's witnesses on a blog.

  but now i have made my own website of all that material.

  the website is made in my own language, swedish.

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  Fernando

  Well done.

  I liked the discussion of "two classes" of Christians.

  https://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&sl=sv&tl=en&u=www.sanningenomsanningen.se
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  Undeserved kindness

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
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  just a side note that i found interesting and sort of upsetting, the wt that the jw's will study on sunday the 18th of september has the words undeserved kindness mentioned 50 in just 19 paragraphs.

  really they need to beat it into their people that they are very worthless and do no deserve anything from god?

  so much so that they use the words over and over, don't they.. lits .

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  Fernando

  I doubt there is anything the GB and their minions fear more than the liberating gospel of grace - the real reason behind Ray Franz' disfellowshipping and the related 1980 Bethel witch-hunt and purge.
  
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  Undeserved kindness

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just a side note that i found interesting and sort of upsetting, the wt that the jw's will study on sunday the 18th of september has the words undeserved kindness mentioned 50 in just 19 paragraphs.

  really they need to beat it into their people that they are very worthless and do no deserve anything from god?

  so much so that they use the words over and over, don't they.. lits .

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  Fernando

  It's not all bad news I believe.

  Potentially very good news in fact...
  

  Some could even be woken up using this article and this question:

  "Is a right and clean standing with God earned or imputed?"

  If imputed as a "free gift" according to scripture, and this article, then (serving and following) the Watchtower Organisation and their ruling religious clergy class and hierarchy is redundant.
  
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  Is the Jesus of religion conservative, and the Jesus of the New Testament liberal?

  by Fernando in

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  is the jesus of religion conservative, and the jesus of the new testament liberal?.

  your thoughts?.

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  Fernando

  He spoke of how things would be in an ideal world, but understood that earth was not an ideal world, so it was fruitless and cruel to impose harsh, black and white standards on very imperfect people.

  very well said FHN...
  
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  Is the Jesus of religion conservative, and the Jesus of the New Testament liberal?

  by Fernando in

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  is the jesus of religion conservative, and the jesus of the new testament liberal?.

  your thoughts?.

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  Is the Jesus of religion conservative, and the Jesus of the New Testament liberal?

  by Fernando in

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  is the jesus of religion conservative, and the jesus of the new testament liberal?.

  your thoughts?.

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  Is the Jesus of religion conservative, and the Jesus of the New Testament liberal?

  by Fernando in

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  is the jesus of religion conservative, and the jesus of the new testament liberal?.

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  Fernando

  LOL Sanchy, Bernie Sanders...

  A 2013 survey by the Barna group found that 86% of Christians in the USA have attitudes and/or actions that are more like the Pharisees (conservative) than like Jesus (liberal).

  In the book "Spirit Level" researchers Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett show significant correlation between the level of income inequality and health/social problems or dysfunction when comparing countries and states.

  On one chart of 20 leading nations, the USA (which by some estimates has around 60% church attendance) has the highest inequality and dysfunction. On the same chart Norway (which by some estimates has around 3% church attendance) has one of the lowest levels of inequality and dysfunction.

  The 3 worst states in the USA?

  All in the Bible belt: Mississippi, Louisiana and Alabama.

  The 4 best states in the USA?

  All not in the Bible belt: New Hampshire, Minnesota, North Dakota and Vermont.

  More research on the above may be needed but indications are that conservatism fails to deliver what it promises, and is instead very unhealthy.
  

  Sexual abuse of young boys by "celibate" priests is one of many snapshots of this failure.

  And what about the pedophilia, rape, and fraud in "God's clean organization", all of which our family has personally experienced - firsthand? Oh, and by the way, the perpetrators are at this very moment still serving (themselves) as elders (Pharisees) in good standing with "God's clean organization" as emissaries of the Governing Body (Sanhedrin or council of Popes).
  
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  Visit From Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  had two lovely jws (stephen and ruth) visit this morning.

  this was our second study in the last 2 weeks.

  they first knocked on my door (bell is out) 3 weeks ago and i shared my testimony and we arranged to meet last tuesday which we did.. our first study went like this:.

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  Fernando

  Teaching JWs how to use their own Watchtower library?

  Great gig if you can get it.

  Great fun too...
  
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  Is the Jesus of religion conservative, and the Jesus of the New Testament liberal?

  by Fernando in

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  2. bible

  is the jesus of religion conservative, and the jesus of the new testament liberal?.

  your thoughts?.

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  Fernando

  Indeed, I see what you say Blondie.

  From a Jesus (good) vs Pharisees (bad) perspective possibly one might say:

  • Liberal = yielding to and embracing prevenient Natural Law and Order
    
    

  • Conservative = ignoring, negating, countermanding and usurping prevenient Natural Law and Order, typically via religious legalism, moralism, doctrinal ethnocentrism, supremacist gnosticism (privileged knowledge), hierarchy, magisterium, clericalism, creedalism, hypocrisy, self-righteousness, ignorance, indifference, inequality, inequity, and bigotry.
    
    

  Or in plain English: liberals navigate by intuition, conservatives navigate by dogma.

  It would be interesting to hear other definitions and perspectives