I agree...most of the elders I knew were uneducated, menial laborers, and barely able to support a family. Yet they GUNNED for that elder position, and lorded it over people as if they were all VPs of a corp. Sadly...these men were Gods in the Khall (and their own minds), but were total losers outside those Khall doors! I mean, nobody respected them, they were jokes.
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JW and the Sabbath
by Andromeda inhello brothers and sisters and truth seekers,.
i am an active jehovah's witness.
i don't believe in 1914 and i'm tototally against their way of dealing with abuse cases.
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This whole conv sounds very JWish! LOL. Someone lays out all their ideas on a topic about a doctrine, they claim to have 'authority' to know the background of said doctrine, and once their expertise/authority is QUESTIONED - they immediately get defensive, yet never provide any proof or specifics of their 'authority', and then finally sum the whole conversation by calling the questioner childish or stupid - and lastly demand to be 'left alone'.
Just another example of typical Jw mentality...start a fire, build it up to an inferno, then plead the 5th when fingers are pointed at you for starting the whole thing. 😁😁😁
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I have to vent about someone...
by babygirl30 ini'm sorry if this comes across as rude or mean, but i'm sorry - not sorry!
there is a woman that was in my congregation for years.
she was dating a 'worldly' man at the time and ended up df'd.
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XELDER - she needs to worry about her OWN security before she comes for mine. How and why be concerned with me and my life?
WORLDLING9 - you got that right! Dazed and confused...she needs to get it together and figure out. But in the meantime, stop writing such contradictions.
FREDDO - when she first reached out, I did in fact give her specific reasons why I had no interest in going back, all of which were doctrine (not personal): blood doctrine, abuse dealings, df process not biblically based, choice of elders, 144k keep growing, baptizing kids, JW broadcast (tv evangelizing). It was all short and sweet. But her last response came a week after I did that, so it is obvious nothing said 'stuck'.
STEVE2 - that is my thing. When ex JWs reach out to me, I try to be careful NOT to lead them in any direction. Ya know? I encourage them to do their research, talk to others, and follow their hearts. Cause that is what I did! But for this chick to be browbeating me, despite her being in the JW doghouse for the 2nd time, is retarded. Thats why the 2nd time, I had no quams checking her.
STUCKINARUT2 - lol! Im not even mad at that sister...she has balls! 3 men AND brought em all to the hall? Shoot. I never understood that mentality. If you want to 'do you' then go right ahead, but make sure you are not living in a glass house. Dont come for me...
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I have to vent about someone...
by babygirl30 ini'm sorry if this comes across as rude or mean, but i'm sorry - not sorry!
there is a woman that was in my congregation for years.
she was dating a 'worldly' man at the time and ended up df'd.
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I'm sorry if this comes across as rude or mean, but I'm sorry - NOT sorry! :-)
There is a woman that was in my congregation for years. She was dating a 'worldly' man at the time and ended up DF'd. She married him, got pregnant, and reinstated - and all was well I guess. She would aux pioneer here and there, she got her husband to study, and he would come to meetings here and there. But for the most part, he kept his distance from all things JW except gatherings - cause he was ALWAYS at those! -hahaha. Now over the years, my situation changed I was DF'd, and have not been back since. AT that point, she unfriended me on facebook, which I expected and had no issue with. It's not like we were all that close anyhow.
9yrs have passed, and I get a random friend request from her - which I accept. I typically assume that when people from my old congregation request me, it's just to see if I am back/reinstated. But I am sure by my pics, language, and posted topics, they can clearly see I am not and will eventually unfriend me anyhow. Matter-a-fact, an ex of mine (JW guy) friended me, went through ALL my pics, must've noticed I am NOT a JW anymore but am happy despite (this guy was a controlling jerk-off), and unfriended me not too long afterwards. Anyways, back to this woman. She sends me this DM:
Mind you, I responded, and that leads to a conversation...where she OPENLY admits that she does NOT agree with the JW's...
...but after her last statement above, she FLIPS the convo around, and begins witnessing to ME!!! Trying to convince me to come back. I was nice about it, but firmly explained my reasoning behind not wanting to go back and my lack of interest in returning. Now you would think that someone saying no would be enough. NOPE! A week later, she comes back with this:
This last time, I went IN!!! Not into the differing doctrines, but in on HER. This is her 2nd time being DF'd for the same reason (a man)...and all the pics on her FB show some guy with a full beard and tats. So this is yet another round for her - which I calmly reminded her of. My issue lies in that fact that her main concern being DF'd should be herself - not me and my salvation. Are you kidding me? You don't get bonus points in heaven if you, being DF'd help someone else who is DF'd? HAHAHAHAHA...the nerve of these people. I tried to be nice. And I am one of those people that doesn't like putting folks on blast unless they absolutely deserve it. But THIS crap got under my skin. Again, get over yourself. Obviously she cannot didn't learn her lesson with the JWs the first time, now because she decides to go back a 2nd time, she wants to be a savior? smdh...
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Can baptism be considered a legal verbal agreement?
by StarTrekAngel inbased on the requirements set forth and the questions answered at the end.
i believe this question has been asked before.
the fact that you can only be expelled after having been put under this oath of allegiance and that you have witnesses to you making this agreement ( i remember my name was shout to the crowd when i entered the pool ).. if it can be considered so, would there be a legal ground to say minors can not enter this agreement?.
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This goes along with exactly what I had said to my parents when I was DF'd and they tried to put the guilt trip on me with the whole "you didn't live up to your dedication"...
Um...
1. I was baptized at 14yrs old
2. I wasn't old enough to vote
3. Wasn't old enough to drink alcohol
4. Couldn't legally consent to sex or marriage
5. Couldn't work FT legally
6. Couldn't be my own legal guardian
7. Was in 8th grade, was a nerd, had no friends, and loved Computers and books...
YET...I was supposedly 'smart' enough to knowingly make a decision to give my LIFE to a religion? Please!
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anyone else had this following convention
by freeandcontent inso my mam visited today.
she recently went to convention in north east england, newcastle i think they still have them at.
before she left she said (this is her exact words btw) "you have put me in a difficult position and i can't come to see you anymore".. she told me that as i live with my partner and we are unmarried that she can't visit anymore.
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I agree with what others have said - this is classic ABUSE at it's highest level. Emotional blackmail...gasslighting...control...blame...manipulation...witholding affection - and the list goes on and on.
I also agree with those that suggest NOT sending pics or keeping your mom pseudo involved in your daughters growth. Please!! If she was that interested in being in her granddaughters life, she would not have any excuses for not doing so...she would just do it. Nobody ever should tell a grown adult who they can associate with.
Im sorry
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The Shunning truth is now out...
by babygirl30 ini have been df'd for 9yrs as of july 31 (yay me!).
so as i have written about previously in other posts, my whole family (parents + sister) made the choice to treat me as if i do not exist, and i have accepted it.
last summer they made a blatant show of it as our family reunion, in that they would walk right by me and not say one word...prompting our extended family to question their actions.
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There is the link to the video.
I have had several family members respond back, but this one aunt warmed my heary and made me feel so good aout exposing my parents..
"Sweetheart, your mother & father's mind is f*cked up royally. Anybody that would let a religion disassociate their relationship with their children will go to hell as far as I'm concerned. The bible says all mankind has to do is repent & ask for forgiveness for their sins so they still have a chance to enter the kingdom of heaven. God knows I sure wish something would knock some sense into them.No matter what they do or say just know that nobody else in the family feels like that regarding any of our nieces or nephews. We love all of you." -
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The Shunning truth is now out...
by babygirl30 ini have been df'd for 9yrs as of july 31 (yay me!).
so as i have written about previously in other posts, my whole family (parents + sister) made the choice to treat me as if i do not exist, and i have accepted it.
last summer they made a blatant show of it as our family reunion, in that they would walk right by me and not say one word...prompting our extended family to question their actions.
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I have been DF'd for 9yrs as of July 31 (yay me!).
So as I have written about previously in other posts, my whole family (parents + sister) made the choice to treat me as if I do not exist, and I have accepted it. Last summer they made a blatant show of it as our family reunion, in that they would walk right by me and not say one word...prompting our extended family to question their actions. Instead of owning the real reason why they ignore me, they have used several different 'excuses' over the years...
1. She needs to get her life together
2. It is NOT the religion
3. Go ask HER why
4. Don't let her fool you that she is innocent
5. This has nothing to do with religion
I have carried around their lies and had to thwart off the questions of everyone in wondering WHAT I could have done to have my own family disown me?! YEARS!!!! But I never had proof of this DF'd policy. There was nothing I could ever show them that would make clear sense - until now. I have to thank JW's for being so stupid and desperate, and making an entire video that clearly lays out the procedure and how JW's are expected to treat DF'd ones. FINALLY!!! I have concrete proof to show that I was not lying all these years.
I sent my extended family the video with a short but sweet explanation about the real reason behind my families treatment of me. Whether they watch it or not, whether they say anything about it to me or not - doesn't matter. The fact that I was finally able to show them what I have been trying to tell them for 9yrs...and now my family cannot lie/hide behind their excuses anymore. Just like most abusers, the one thing they hate most is being exposed. Now, my folks have been. And I feel GOOD.
#justiceserved
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Anybody know of Marques Houston?
by BluesBrother ini have never heard of the guy but it seems that he is now a j w ....and important enough to warrant a newspaper story.. http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/rnb-star-marques-houston-reveals-he-has-become-jehovahs-witness-1571588.
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He is the older brother of Omarion Houston who was in a singing group...B2K. Marques was "Roger" from Sister Sister. He too was in a singing group, cant remember the name though...
These boys were raised JW, but pursued entertainment careers. Obviously SOMETHING moved him to make it official though. Only Jesus knows! Lol
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disfellowshipped family and friend being reinstated
by Together innew to the forums and looking for someone who may have had a similar experience.
i have been disfellowshipped going on 30 years now.
within those thirty years i have built myself a life and slowly learned to cope with the shunning from family and friends.
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As was already said, FB is not real life. It is cyber world...where people can be bullies online yet punks in person. Models with filters on the web, but ugly as Hell face to face. None of it is REAL. Dont let that pettiness get you down. What does having a df'd person on fb prevent a JW from? Absolutely nothing. It is just games.