my wife got an invite to a "party" and got me thinking...... one of the biggest things that used to annoy me was how many members of the congregation were involved in those mlm sales schemes or "work from home" companies and they used the kh as the hub of their business.
many of those companies are very legit, and i have no problem with people selling that stuff, its just that people would use their field service tactics to pressure others in the hall to buy stuff.. every week, a member of my family would get invited to a candle party, cosmetics party, tupperware party, vitamin party, etc......you could go bankrupt just from the constant flow of parties and feeling obligated to buy something.. the sad part was that if you turned down the invite or went and didnt buy anything, you would offend the selller!.
then, they would always run around and deliver their orders before and after the meeting (unles the elders put a stop to it), otherwise you would see them out in their car after the meeting distributing everyones' orders.. .
Chickpea, I remember when we had a similar command.
My parents were into all kinds of MLM crap. Also the vitamin MLMs were very common where I grew up. I think that they draw people who don't like to work, like my father. It is great for people who can't do physical labor, but the people i knew thought it was a way to get rich and not have to work a job.
many years ago i came across this painting in the national museum of scotland in edinburgh.
simply called "hagar" it was painted by andrew geddes in the early 19th c.. i was touched by the sadness of the subject.
at the time i was a loyal jw and my ability to read the bible through a filter that could justify anything was at its peak.. for the first time i was forced to face up to the scandal of how abraham and sarah treated their young slave girl.
wow, thank you, that was great.
many years ago i came across this painting in the national museum of scotland in edinburgh.
simply called "hagar" it was painted by andrew geddes in the early 19th c.. i was touched by the sadness of the subject.
at the time i was a loyal jw and my ability to read the bible through a filter that could justify anything was at its peak.. for the first time i was forced to face up to the scandal of how abraham and sarah treated their young slave girl.
There is a beatuiful sadness to that picture.
Where could I find a larger image? My Google-fu is weak today, and I have turned up nothing.
in ancient times the easiest way to measure things was to use the most convenient measuring tools available that anybody could afford to own: your own body parts!.
yes, you could use your own foot to measure "feet".. you could use the width of your thumb to measure an inch (call it by whatever name you like.).
what you really needed (necessity) was to invent your own proof!
I don't see it.....but i guess that is your point.
Good write up Terry.
for those unaware the memorial has no scriptural basis.
of the 12 men at the last passover not one of them ever said or wrote jesus said "do this in remembrance of me" matthew said jesus blessed the bread and wine and gave the bread and wine to his apostles.
we have paul saying jesus said those words and the writting of luke which everyone needs to read and find out what's missing in his account.
Another interesting note:
I looked up Luke 22:15-20 on Biblegateway.com and every english bible there says "This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me." only the NWT says keep doing this" Even this does not seem to be fitting a repeating patteren, the context sounds like it was only supposed to be done once.
Is this more of writing the bible to fit a doctrine?
-MM
for those unaware the memorial has no scriptural basis.
of the 12 men at the last passover not one of them ever said or wrote jesus said "do this in remembrance of me" matthew said jesus blessed the bread and wine and gave the bread and wine to his apostles.
we have paul saying jesus said those words and the writting of luke which everyone needs to read and find out what's missing in his account.
but do think that really means eating and drinking somehthing literal? Or could it just mean all things we do we would do for Him?
for those unaware the memorial has no scriptural basis.
of the 12 men at the last passover not one of them ever said or wrote jesus said "do this in remembrance of me" matthew said jesus blessed the bread and wine and gave the bread and wine to his apostles.
we have paul saying jesus said those words and the writting of luke which everyone needs to read and find out what's missing in his account.
I have never paid enough attention to this to notice before. I went back and looked at this for a moment. So it seems that no one who was actually with Jesus at the last meal, ever mentions that he said to keep doing this. Only those who only had oral tradition passed down to them? Is this right?
If so that really changes things. I wondered many time why there is no mention of anyone in the early congreations having anything that resembeled a memorial meal as we know it today. Is that becuse it didn't really exist, or was Paul just sayaing to remember every time you had you regular meal, meaning you should always be thinking about Jesus?
I really need some talking points.
Also, I have asked why it matters so much that they get their memorial in on the smae evening if day is sunup to sun down, why try to cram 4 congreations in to rented facilities just so it can be on the same night? There is no biblical command for when it needs to be done (if you want to accept Pauls story) at any certain time frame.
Comments please!
-MM
http://www.thedoghousediaries.com/?p=1406.
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I see someone else here is a Digg reader
just in case there are any faders that need help breaking the news:.
i am posting this letter i left with my mother after i explained to her in person that i no longer wanted to be "in the truth".
you are not to blame, you cant make choices for me any more, only i can.. .
it was just asked (by whom i'm not certain, sorry!
i can't go back!
you can never go back!!
not all of us have an answer. I did view eariler, but can't post from my phone.
I do have a comment though.
I look at it like this. My wife doesn't even try to look at the picture. She has been told there is no dolphin, so therefore she doesn't want to try to see it.
