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i got tired of witnesses reading my posts, taking it the wrong way, and then going to the elders about it.
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did anyone watch the nbc program "rock center" last night?
it dealt with scientology defectors and the stories, (shunning, tax-exempte etc) sounded very much like the watchtower/jehovah witnesses!.
i sat with my family...and there was dead silence throughout the report.
how lovely the very old jw lady is, it's not about her.. but the jw.org is using every opportunity to make (irrelevant) news!.
http://www.jw.org/en/news/by-region/europe/france/irenise-moulonguet-centenarian/.
That would make her part of "The Generation" that saw the end of the gentil times.
Or was that the second generation that simply born by 1914?
Er..if she is overlapping with a generation...no wait... so she is the overlapped generation not the overlapping generation?
i thought that we could just fade away peacefully, but i guess my mother told my sister that we no longer wanted to be jehovah's witnesses so now all hell is breaking loose.. .
it's a relief tho.
i feel really sad and upset also, because my mom lives with my sister and now has been forbidden from contacting me or vice versa.
Unfortunatly there is no middle ground with the org, if you choose to be inactive that is the same as saying you don't want to be a JW, which is the same as disassocation.
The real world isn't so black-and-whiite, but they are.
Also remember their definition of an apostate, is as simple as someone who believes differently or leaves. You don'thave to speak out or write books, private thoughts are held against you.
You may want to spend a few emails just saying Hello, talk about your day. Just try to establish conversation that is not about anythign JW. Hopefully your sister won't interfer. If you mothin has made a choice you probabky just want to be friendly for a while and not give you sister any reason to block your email.
I wish you the best and congatulations and taking control of your own life.
i was wondering on the views about homeschooling vs public/private scholling.. thoughts?.
I was home schooled (HS) by my JW parents, just left to finish the work without help.
i took the easiest classes (Armageddon was coming soon) just to finish. I am all the worse off for it now, and regret it daily.
Some parents are up to the task, sounds like JeffT's wife is doing a great job, but I feel people like that are few and far between.
does anyone have acurate data on the current governing body...i mean...watchtower clergy...i mean...faithful and discreet slave members' former professions and ages?.
I can tell you Anthony Morris the Third is a Vietnam war veteran...
Because he mentions it every talk, and every chance to bring it up?
" {watchtower sep 1 1989 12}.
" {tiah 240-1, also references in wr oct 1879 3941, tkic 84}.
'" {zions watchtower mar 1880 repr 82}.
mark and a bump
i have been involved in an email exchange with a jw regarding my article on noah's flood, and whether it was global.
it got me really worked up, as i find the watchtower mentality totally hypocritical.
here is part of the conversation.. .
The arrogant words show the mind to be closed.
hi, new member here, but i've lurked for a while.. for obvious reasons, i won't give too many details about myself, but i thought i'd share my story of what might in the end have been the easiest fade in recorded history.
it's going to be a wall of text, and i'm writing it mostly for myself to get it out of my system, but it is, of course, a pretty open forum, so any comments and most questions are welcome.. here goes:.
what made me realize ttatt was legalism.
Thank you for your story.
It was legalism that turned me from inactive, while I didn't believe to downright apostate.
I was OK having differing beliefs, it was when I realized I wasn't allowed to share them that I changed.
To me it was NOT OK to say it is fine if you believe something, just don't tell others.
there's a study article "make sure of the more important things", and in no uncertain terms the article makes clear that "jehovah's organization" is the most important thing.
the term "organization" or "jehovah's organization" is used a whopping 24 times in the article, including a subheading titled: "follow the example of jehovah's organization".
i thought organizations were entities, but that sort of subheading makes it seem like the organization is one giant person whose example we can follow.
This didn't get any love in the other thread I posted it in, but it seems important to me.
Same Article as above.
14 In like manner, the great crowd fully
supports the work of Christ’s anointed
brothers who are still on earth and
who are taking the lead in the organization
today. (Read Zechariah 8:23.)
Zechariah says this:
23 “This is what Jehovah of armies has said, ‘It will be in those days that ten men * out of all the languages * of the nations + will take hold, + yes, they will actually take hold of the skirt of a man * who is a Jew, *+ saying: “We will go with YOU people, + for we have heard [that] God * is with YOU people.”’” +
So is the great crowd trying to sneak into the kingdom now? Being "let" in by the annointed? Begging to be let in?