Posts by skepticSam

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Local Elders whip the Congregation into a frenzy about donating to the Organization

by James Jack in

because of the may broadcast about how funds are down, our elders have been in their talks "encouraging" or pressuring everyone to donate more to the world wide work.. it freaks me out how we already give them a set amount of $600 a month, plus what is contributed by the congregation(usually $400 to $500 a month).

heck, our local congregation bank account even got below $500 for the first time this past may since i have been doing the accounts(4 years now).

for june, we raised a whopping $2400 to send into the branch.. the most amazing part, is that only a select few contribute on a regular basis every month.

skepticSam

When you really think about this issue whose fault is it they told all the Witnesses to work at jobs that only make Minimum Wage?

Look at Joel Olstein's Church and see how his flock that make money share that money with him by buying all his paraphernalia and books, they donate cash too! The Watchtower is "Reaping what they sown" because their members are the "Working Poor", many have blown up financially from scams their brothers introduced them to Wicked Witnesses running Ponzi Schemes and Pay-Day Loan Scams! Many JWs are not evil, they are just screwed because they feel this is the only religion that make's sense and as each year goes by, it's not making much sense! We had a brother get them involved in Real Estate, Real Estate where a prison was suppose to be built(note suppose, it did not get built there and their investment cratered to a 1/3 of what they bought it at!) they got in on the ground-floor! The groups involved blew up after missing their payments, the brother who was behind this is still very rich, he did not use his entire 401k or IRA to get involved in "fast money" ideas!

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Local Elders whip the Congregation into a frenzy about donating to the Organization

by James Jack in

because of the may broadcast about how funds are down, our elders have been in their talks "encouraging" or pressuring everyone to donate more to the world wide work.. it freaks me out how we already give them a set amount of $600 a month, plus what is contributed by the congregation(usually $400 to $500 a month).

heck, our local congregation bank account even got below $500 for the first time this past may since i have been doing the accounts(4 years now).

for june, we raised a whopping $2400 to send into the branch.. the most amazing part, is that only a select few contribute on a regular basis every month.

skepticSam

Jehovah's Witnesses have got to be the worse people when it comes to donations to the Kingdom Halls. I've been working on a paper to submit here to prove how the Governing Body knows it can't rely on Witnesses to be generous towards the World Wide Work. We have many examples how the Organization has changed it's entire structure not for normal cost-savings but due to the fact many Jehovah's Witnesses do not demonstrate their appreciation for all this "fine spiritual food" but are cheapskates!

Allow me to share a story about two sisters, one made $25,000 a year and another was married to the greatest Disability Scam artist ever. Sister $25k gave $50 to $75 a month consistently, sister $150k often forgot to give and when she did only gave $10 to $20 once every two months. Doing the books made me see how cheap most JWs are, a few Elders usually had to pull the weight of the entire Congregation along with some older impoverished sisters!

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Candace Conti Case

by truthseekeriam in

jw
friends

filed:.

letter dated june 22, 2015, notifying the court that petitioners, watchtower and fremont congregation have reached a settlement with respondent, conti.. .

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skepticSam

Great Post Mr. Flipper, how deluded the JWs are that preach they have something the other religions don't and that's a "safe place from evil" and "the truth". When other religions teach these very concepts the Watchtower quickly seeks some dirt, their so good at mudslinging!

If the Kingdom Halls agreed to a "monetary settlement" are they agreeing their in fault or will this be one of those "we agree to pay but refuse to admit guilt!" Settlements?

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Not on JW.org : Update: FOUR Connecticut Jehovah's Witnesses sex abuse victims sue Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.

by Balaamsass2 in

branford attorney takes on sexual abuse of children, jehovah's witnessesstory.

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skepticSam

The Religion who preaches "Jehovah's Witnesses have the safest places on Earth to be!" and "Kingdom Halls are where you will meet during the End because Jehovah will protect them!" need to re-evaluate where the "inner rooms" are going to be. I would not want to be a child where the elder or member is hiding with infants in his "inner-rooms" during the End so he can get one last taste of sex before God kills them off!

All those stories of people getting killed and inferring evil on the part of good people trying to stay afloat are wicked!(Brother David stayed home because he was tired, he did not seeing his wife work too so he decided to get overtime pay, because Brother David was a good provider he fell asleep after getting home and missed the Book Study Meeting. While Brother David stayed home, a meteorite hit his house killing him while his family that attended the Kingdom Hall were safe!). What can we extrapolate from Brother David's story?

1. Staying home on a Meeting Night means Jehovah won't protect you from Meteorite Showers!

2. Working Overtime so your JW Wife can be a stay-at-home Mom needs to be revisited, even though she pioneered it was not worth the costs of Brother David losing his life!

3. If you are in a state of underemployment, bills are pilling up and need some breathing room, don't even think about missing Meetings or using time from the Ministry to make ends meet or you can expect your life will perish like Brother David did!

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Candace Conti Case

by truthseekeriam in

jw
friends

filed:.

letter dated june 22, 2015, notifying the court that petitioners, watchtower and fremont congregation have reached a settlement with respondent, conti.. .

click here to request automatic e-mail notifications about this case..

skepticSam

Did the Watchtower ask for a discount or pay full price of the compensatory damages? Nitty-Gritty thought this thread might have passed everyone up, bumping it up to show you catch everything here! I wish Candy the best with life and hope she is able to get closure of this horrific ordeal, may God curse her Perp!

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Candace Conti Settles

by Nitty-Gritty in

hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

but it's all quiet here.

are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

skepticSam

Nitty-Gritty is preaching nothing new, I know elders who went to court trying to help the Pedophile get a reduced sentence because they could see the changes inside good men like Fredrick Cecil Mclean and the rest of these bane of humanity. While at a Assembly in North California there was a brother who was removed for forcing oral-sex and sodomy on boys of 6-12 years old, his father was the local Circuit Star so he was allowed to move back up the ranks again. Where was this Pedophile who loved little boys, oh, he was helping all them boys by handing them towels and helping with the Baptisms.

Brother-Pedophile spent all his time helping warm up the boys at the Assembly in the bathroom until my friend caught him and warned the CO and DO. His father went straight to the CO and DO and argued to stop this harassment against his son, he son was "no longer a rapist or lover of little boys. A standstill happened, my friend threatened to call the Media and Police and finally the Pedo's father backed off as and "instant common sense" fell upon the "appointed men" who saw it was a bad idea to allow a sex offender access to little boys. He has been helping at all the Assemblies over the past few weeks,our brother had a soft-soft for tween boys, or should we say his "soft spot" got hard? All he wanted was to dry off the little boys and help them change their clothes, his father thought his son was "just trying to help and show humility!" by touching and drying the baby-boys, just trying to dry them and give them a good luck kiss as a "Welcome to the Watchtower Organization" greeting!

This Pedophile was eventually arrested and put away for life, the Watchtower knew he was a Pedophile and refused to broadcast these details because this could hurt this brother's chance at living a normal life among the friends, it's all about the image of the Watchtower, not the victims!

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Candace Conti Settles

by Nitty-Gritty in

hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

but it's all quiet here.

are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

skepticSam

"How do you know that WT do not base their judgement on what law enforcement has said about the perpetrator and on history of prosecution? What else do you think they can base their judgment on??? Logically??"

All the lawsuits paid off by the Watchtower (Fredrick Cecil Mclean) "Tour of San Diego Kingdom Halls" provides us enough statistical data to infer the Elders have no business making decisions on anything more than washing a toilet or cleaning windows. We have plenty of empirical data the Watchtower knew they had a problem but ignored this so they could put on the pretense the "Kingdom Hall is the Best Place in the World to Be!" Bullshit. While lashing out at Christendom for Child Abuse Cover Ups, they were hiding their own Pedophiles and preventing true justice by mentally abusing the victims!

All the Watchtower's victims who reported their abuse got tired of being told to "Wait on Jehovah", "If you speak out to the Police, people won't come to the Kingdom Hall. If people don't come to the Kingdom Hall, they will die at Armageddon! If people die at Armageddon, you will be Blood Guilty" Evil Reasoning at it's height!

You need to speak with Barbara Anderson and Bob Bowen and watch the Dateline Special on JWs and Pedophilia because you are not being logical. I am very emotional on this topic because a few of us lost our wonder privileges for exposing these freaks "that don't exist in Jehovah's Organization", yes, we got punished for exposing Pedophiles, what a great Organization you have!

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Candace Conti Settles

by Nitty-Gritty in

hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

but it's all quiet here.

are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

skepticSam

Obeying local and national laws vs the law of humanity is what your saying the elders and followers of the Watchtower need to obey! Bravo, we got ourselves a potential defense lawyer for the Eichmann s and Milosevic s of humanity! Does the Watchtower want justice for it's victims or avoid any entanglement by letting the World know this religion is not free from freak shows? We were told our entire existence in the Organization to never let the World know what's going on inside (I refer to "going to court", "telling worldly people we have wicked members who steal from you, your neighbors or the Government by not paying taxes. Victims of Sexual Abuse were frequently told in the 1980s-1990s to "Wait on Jehovah" only to go insane or kill themselves! )... How many Ex-JW Elders and females know of situations where you were told to "throw your pride out the door and Wait on Jehovah" until you could no longer take their evil ways of hiding all that's bad inside the Kingdom Halls so people think "Jehovah's Witnesses are great, their different and don't suffer the problems our churches do!".......

"I cannot recognize the verdict of guilty. . . . It was my misfortune to become entangled in these atrocities. But these misdeeds did not happen according to my wishes. It was not my wish to slay people. . . . Once again I would stress that I am guilty of having been obedient, having subordinated myself to my official duties and the obligations of war service and my oath of allegiance and my oath of office, and in addition, once the war started, there was also martial law. . . . I did not persecute Jews with avidity and passion. That is what the government did. . . . At that time obedience was demanded, just as in the future it will also be demanded of the subordinate.".

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nuremberg_defense

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We can no longer support "religious freedom" says the ACLU

by StarTrekAngel in

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/congress-should-amend-the-abused-religious-freedom-restoration-act/2015/06/25/ee6aaa46-19d8-11e5-ab92-c75ae6ab94b5_story.html

skepticSam

Classic Joseph Goebbels OP ED, he would be so proud of all your half-truths and all the suckers who did not read the article or use critical thinking, you really have a heart for the Watchtower posting lies like this!

Great job Viv and others who caught the BS! There are great members on JWN who challenge Bullshit Threads, this is why it's such a great place to learn, A+ for all the members that read the source instead of believing the NAZI Style Propaganda! I read a book recently on Goebbels, this style of half-truth is what made him such a genius!

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Watchtower 6/28/2015 on 1st Christian Courage, Have the Courageous Watchtower Leaders Ever Condemned Radical Islam?

by skepticSam in

i read blondie's great summary of today's watchtower lesson and thought about all the christians who died from various deaths for preaching the word and because they really believed what they preached the watchtower asked something of this sort, "if you were a christian in the early centuries, could you boldly stand up to all the exquisite tortures hurled at the first century christians because they were not afraid to take a stand for christ or be cowards to evil!".

are you aware of any condemnation made by the watchtower against radical islam or any actions showing their courage and being no part of this world?

they attack patient christian religions but what about others, where is their courage?.

skepticSam

smiddy15 hours ago

Their is no way the WT would take on radical Islam , the WT leaders like to keep their head on their shoulders , when it`s not up their own ass .

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Good stuff smiddy, everyone else nailed it on this round! The Watchtower is anti-Christian, not Anti-False Religion is one of the best concepts you enlightened me with. Why is the Watchtower unwilling to speak out when other Christians in Islamic Countries have spoken out and might have suffered!
Another topic is their constant attacks against people who leave their ranks because their sick of hearing the same old lies, if Jesus was to return would he really pick a religion started by ten crusty old white during Rutherford's time? Watchtower Leaders and Members are part of Babylon the Great, they have nothing in common with Christianity and that's why they focus their hate on "apostates" and "Christians" while shutting their mouths against other religions!