Thanks for posting.
peacedog
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Don't worry - the F&DS will deal with the root causes of mankind's woes!
by peacedog inthis statement from the jan 2010 wt, page 13:.
[jesus] knew that he himself as king of that kingdom, along with his resurrected spirit-begotten brothers, would deal with the root causes of mankind's woes-sin and the devil.
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peacedog
Satanus,
Thanks for clarifying. But even so, that doesn't change the fact that according to the F&DS, *they* [in spirit form] will deal with the root causes of mankind's woes - sin and the Devil.
Kinda presumptous of them considering there is no sciptural support for this claim.
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DR James Penton ...W.T. History on dialogue tonight Sat. Nov.28,2009
by koolaid-man indr. james penton, author of apocalypse delayed and jehovah's witnesses and the third reich will be richard rowe's guest on the dialogue program.
dialogue can be heard on the six screens telenetwork.
you can listen to this program by dialing 712-432-8710 and when asked for pin use 9925. the program will begin at 6:45p.m.
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peacedog
Apocalypse Delayed was the first "apostate" book I read. Man, did it open my eyes. I highly recommend this book.
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Consolation on Demand
by chasson ini have a lot of consolation magazines that i could scan.. if you want a particular issue for research, tell me and i will scan it, and you can tell to the board more what are your research, so everybody will have more insight.. .
here is one of this magazine concerning the madison square garden incident.
this incident is connected with the olyn moyle's trial and it is interessant to see the vision of rutherford concerning this.. he tried in this magazine to excuse the usher, because what he said on stage was "the word of jehovah", so nobody must stop the "spreading of the word of god".
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peacedog
Thanks!
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Would the WT$ outright lie?
by peacedog inin another thread the question of whether or not the wt$ would "outright lie" was raised.. i happen to believe that they would in a heartbeat, although i agree that their preference is for sneaky misleading statements as opposed to outright lies.
regardless, here's a short list of some of what i consider incontrovertible evidence that yes, the wt$ would outright lie.. .
consider the following statements printed in the wt magazine:.
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peacedog
Another outright lie by the "true religion", this one from the book Let Your Kingdom Come (1981):
Counting from October 607 B.C.E., the "seven times" of 2,520 years bring us down to early October 1914 C.E., when, as we have already seen, Jesus' great prophecy on "the conclusion of the system of things" started to be fulfilled. Reliable information in God's Word is the basis for this conclusion, which the Watchtower magazine has been championing now for more than 100 years. (Let Your Kingdom Come, 1981, p.137)
According to these statements, the "conclusion of the system of things" prophecy STARTED to be fulfilled in October 1914, and the Watchtower magazine has been "championing" this for more than 100 years.......
........except that as already shown in previous posts, the WT$ used to teach that Jesus' prophecy on the "conclusion of the system of things" started to be fulfilled in 1799, not 1914. October 1914 was said to be the ABSOLUTE END of the conclusion of the system of things:
The indisputable facts, therefore, show that the "time of the end" began in 1799; that the Lord's second presence began in 1874; that the harvest followed thereafter and greater light has come upon the Word of God. (WT, 3/1, 1922, p.73)
We see no reason for changing the figures – nor could we change them if we would. They are, we believe, God’s dates, not ours. But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble. (WT Reprints, 7/15,1894, p.1672)
In 1981, the Watchtower magazine had NOT been "championing" 1914 as the start of ANYTHING "for more than 100 years"...
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Don't worry - the F&DS will deal with the root causes of mankind's woes!
by peacedog inthis statement from the jan 2010 wt, page 13:.
[jesus] knew that he himself as king of that kingdom, along with his resurrected spirit-begotten brothers, would deal with the root causes of mankind's woes-sin and the devil.
(rom.
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peacedog
Thanks for the comments.
Satanus: When were the angels "resurrected"?
mrsjones: I think technically the 144k *is* the F&DS, although for all intents and purposes, the GB is really the F&DS......
isaacaustin: Of course, you must be right... I've got to stop jumping the gun like that. Now where is that vomit bag....
I continue to be amazed by the degree to which the GB has elevated themselves and supplanted Jesus in their own eschatology. They are truly legends in their own minds...
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Don't worry - the F&DS will deal with the root causes of mankind's woes!
by peacedog inthis statement from the jan 2010 wt, page 13:.
[jesus] knew that he himself as king of that kingdom, along with his resurrected spirit-begotten brothers, would deal with the root causes of mankind's woes-sin and the devil.
(rom.
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peacedog
This statement from the Jan 2010 WT, page 13:
[Jesus] knew that he himself as King of that Kingdom, along with his resurrected Spirit-begotten brothers, would deal with the root causes of mankind's woes-sin and the Devil. (Rom. 5:12; Rev. 20:10)
Another example of the WT$ elevating themselves to Jesus-status. It's not Jesus who'll deal with Satan - it's Jesus ALONG WITH THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE CLASS.
The WT$ cited Rom 5:12 and Rev 20:10, but - surprise! - neither support the claim that they (FDS) will "deal with the root causes of mankind's woes-sin and the devil"....
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Does anyone have PDFs for the Watchtowers of January and February 2010?
by dgp inanybody has them?.
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peacedog
fokyc: Thanks!
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Blondie's Comments You Won't Hear at the 11-22-09 WT Study (DIVINE EDUCATION)
by blondie in6:9; isaiah 9:6.. comments.
what is one way that divine education helps us prepare for the future?.
divine education.
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peacedog
Thanks blondie.
Money will be worthless. In fact, Ezekiel 7:19 says: "Into the streets they will throw their very silver, and an abhorrent thing their own gold will become." That foreknowledge can help us to act wisely now..... In view of the nearness of Jehovah's day, each of us does well to consider: 'Where am I storing up treasure? Am I slaving for God or for Riches?'
After more than a hundred years of "nearness of Jehovah's day", it's hard to believe people still swallow this........
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Does anyone have PDFs for the Watchtowers of January and February 2010?
by dgp inanybody has them?.
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peacedog
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