Posts by Diogenesister

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Apostate Boogeyman

by Vidiot in

say your prayers, little dub,and be sure you brush off...all the things you hear of.. if you wont, if you dont,youll be easy prey,when the apostate he comes.. out there, cruelly waging his sneaky tight-pants crusade.... be afraid... hell invade...thats his plan...the apostate boogeyman!.

xsomethings wrong, shades of gray,its been there all day,but you stay anyway..... full of lies, full of greed,mentally diseased,and hes probably gay.... helping in satans kitchen, cooking your faith away (wait, what?)....

dont wimp out... stifle doubt...thwart his plan... the apostate boogeyman!.

Diogenesister

I think your chanellin' Slayer there...wow I want to get with puppy in that mosh pit!!!

On a totally musically opposite note I was watching a Burt Bacharat tribute concert last night and he was basically giving the whole thing to his mom who pushed him as a kid to play & practice - total support -we would not have that music if it where not for her enabling... it made me think of all that Witness talent wasted....kids prevented from fulfilling their potential and humanity now missing some

serious tunes, beautiful challenging art, powerful films or cures for who knows what & maybe even that ellusive "theory of everything"

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If I've been testy lately, here's why.

by cappytan in

jw
friends

my parents are visiting for not-thanksgiving.

dad started bringing up spiritual stuff and i almost screwed up my fade.. it's so hard to have a genuine discussion about the issues in the organization when you have become an atheist.

it feels icky and disgusting to have to pretend and nod your head at such platitudes as "you just need to have faith"..."trust in jehovah"..."jehovah will correct it"..."remember ray franz?

Diogenesister

If the cappy fit's wear it!!

You are just great the way you are, don't worry about us here, you have too much to worry about without bein' worried about being a grumpy captain - love your posts btw, always so genuuine & real, no bs which is why I guess it's killing you to be dishonest to your Dad.

Puppy brand new I think mrs cappy is one cool mama & the little cappies too young to be a problem.

Just take it easy, DONT be hard on yourself. I suppose there will come a time when the little ones will put you in it "grandpa but the birds evolved from dinosaurs ....who is Jehovah?"

However you are new to this, only you know how best to approach dad, when the time comes...I understand how you feel, it's a nightmare..you just dont want to hurt them, go easy on yourself this is NOT YOUR FAULT OR OF YOUR DOING

xxxx

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UPDATE APRIL 2015 New Documents Re: Charity Commission Investigation into Watchtower Britain

by jwleaks in

an updated list of documents relating to the charity commission investigation into watchtower of britain and jehovah's witnesses are available on jw leaks.. jw leaks.

original charity commission press release.

press release.

Diogenesister

Paradise, safegaurding of minor children & vulnerable adults, the trustees of each charity - in this case the BOE, are under law required to have in place & inpliment best practice policies regarding the above. If they do not, and recent court cases have highlighted problems, this reflects badly in public trust of charity status.

So...not sure but maybe charity commission can revoke charitable status, not sure if that would apply to specific congregations or all BTS of GB congs.

Watch the dark tower comply immediately if they fear loss of ££££ due to revoking of charitable status.

Just my take, maybe not 100 correct though xxx

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I have been informed that if u are df and you appeal the decision and you loose appeal

by poopie in

jw
friends

the elders will keep you out longer as payback for you appealing their decision how dare you peon appeal the secret weapons design you stupid publisher.

Diogenesister

Does the fact that there even IS an appeals process, and that certain appeals are upheld and the DF verdict reversed, does this show that the original decision and elders on the JC were not led by holy spirit after all?k

That is precisely why they never want to reverse a decision, even if there is shed loads of evidence the appellant is in the right - swines

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I have been informed that if u are df and you appeal the decision and you loose appeal

by poopie in

jw
friends

the elders will keep you out longer as payback for you appealing their decision how dare you peon appeal the secret weapons design you stupid publisher.

Diogenesister

I think, but I don't know for sure so sorry if I am wrong poopie & guys that poopie is very very close to some df ones & he is held captive at present in - however maybe he reached breaking point & went balistic, ? has been df for associating with df ones as I know he does?

POOPIE MATE YOU OK?

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Suicide or Real Freedom? - My Story As One Of Jehovah's Witnesses

by dubstepped in

"sometimes i think the only thing i could do that wouldn't upset someone would be to kill myself.".

those were the frustrated words of my friend as we stood out in his large yard in the country, just about to enjoy a nice bonfire on a beautiful night.

what was it that could have been a lesser evil than killing himself?

Diogenesister

Thank you so much Dubstepped, I just saw my therapist but I didn't want to show her till I heard from you, I will email it to her with a message as she knows I wanted her to see it. It's hard for people who don't know the religon to get a sense of just how much scrutiny you are under & how much you deem yourself unworthy no matter what you do.

Your piece is marvellous, it taught me about feelings I could not identify in me as focusing on self knowledge & self care is frowned on by the WT unless its to boost 'productivity'.xxx anna

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Are Worshipers of God following God`s will or mans will.in this 21st Century

by smiddy in

according to the bible humans have lived on this earth about 6000 years according to j.w,`s interpretation.. in the last couple of centuries , and in particular this last century , knowledge and wisdom has abounded in many domains .

so in one sense humans have grown from being a child to an adult ,we , as a species have come of age .we have put men on the moon ,12 so far ,, over six missions , we have sent probes into outer space , voyagers i and 2 , sent in the 1970`s , that have now gone outside our galaxy , further than 100 times the distance from earth to the sun and it is still sending back signals to earth.yet jehovah was concerned that men were building a tower thousands of years ago that would be dwarfed by the size of buildings that have gone up these past centuries,?

so my question is : why hasn`t the almighty god progressed at the same rate as his creations ?

Diogenesister

For years I thought the following was the raving of paranoid left wing conspiracy theorists, but now after thorough research I know the witnesses are right

Religon is nothing but a snare & racket

It is a way to control the masses

All ancient jumbled human mythology

It IS time for us to grow up & live superstition free lives , the fourth age?

How I yearn to see it! I have educated my kids to think for themselves - maybe they will be the real golden generation who will see mankind mature & throw off the shakles of superstitious thought

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Little Thought for Lurkers, oringinal sin?

by Diogenesister in

just one little thought....adam & eve ate the fruit from the tree "of the knowledge of good & evil".

so..in other words, before they ate they did not know right from wrong...hmmmm so how can you blame someone who does not know right from wrong?.

for a crime to take place in human law you must have the act - 'actus reus' - and the guilty mind or 'mens rea' as it is termed.

Diogenesister

ha hadark knight you desparado, you counted them!!Here have one on me!🍻

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Suicide or Real Freedom? - My Story As One Of Jehovah's Witnesses

by dubstepped in

"sometimes i think the only thing i could do that wouldn't upset someone would be to kill myself.".

those were the frustrated words of my friend as we stood out in his large yard in the country, just about to enjoy a nice bonfire on a beautiful night.

what was it that could have been a lesser evil than killing himself?

Diogenesister

wow, just wow.

Thank you so much for posting, the effort that you made for us all...I am definately going to look up the narcassistic family book, I really relate to the over sensative child stuff, in fact, if it's ok I would like to show my therapist your post as you have put so much into words I want to express but can't. In fact you have really opened my eyes to some of my own behaviours..

You guys are so inspirational, I wish you both much love & luck..Thank you again💕❤❤

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Little Thought for Lurkers, oringinal sin?

by Diogenesister in

just one little thought....adam & eve ate the fruit from the tree "of the knowledge of good & evil".

so..in other words, before they ate they did not know right from wrong...hmmmm so how can you blame someone who does not know right from wrong?.

for a crime to take place in human law you must have the act - 'actus reus' - and the guilty mind or 'mens rea' as it is termed.

Diogenesister

Just one little thought....adam & eve ate the fruit from the tree "of the knowledge of good & evil"

so..in other words, before they ate they did not know right from wrong...hmmmm so how can you blame someone who does not know right from wrong?

For a crime to take place in human law you must have the act - 'actus reus' - and the guilty mind or 'mens rea' as it is termed. No guilty mind, no crime, despite the act having taken place, as in the case of a young child for example.

How could they have a guilty mind before they knew right from wrong.

Surely we humans cannot be more just than God, can we?!!