Posts by Diogenesister

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Did you KNOW Ray and Cynthia or the legal copyright holder? Only a few maybe had limited contact.

by blondie in

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i have known all of them over the last 15 years, talked at length with them, and knew what their wishes were, the copyright holder and spouse spent even more time with them socially and helping them set up their arrangements for when ray and cynthia passed.

i don't believe that anyone else on this board or others was a confidant.

there is no need to prove it to anyone but the copyright office which is satisfied with this.

Diogenesister

LMSA Can't we just respect the copyright here and stop bending over backwards to defend some clown who slapped his logo on the back and pirated copies in an attempt to promote his website?

My point is he has admitted fault AND made restitution to the owners satisfaction, what do you want - blood? The people who started this shit storm had links to it on their YouTube channel - I have received links to it even on this site in the past. The complaints are hypocritical and WAY out of proportion to the deed done.

That ' clown' has helped way more people out than many folks ever will.

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I need some advise

by Lost his mind in

following is a letter i am going to send to the entire family both jw and non.

i would like to get your advice on whether i should do it.

my husband has told me before to voice my complaints but i have yet.

Diogenesister

Not sure - but I guess they must be in laws? In which case your husband needs to not put it all on you to do this alone. You BOTH need to send it as a united front - they will soon get the message then!!!!!

I wish you all the best and know that feeling - just cos you are/ were dubs they think they have a right to interfere!

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Spokane 2016 Convention dates - "darkest weekend"

by OrphanCrow in

i came across an odd remark concerning the booking of a jw convention in an article from spokane.. visit spokane’s cheryl kilday: meeting expectations.

since cheryl kilday returned to the northwest 5 1/2 years ago, the spokane convention center has been expanded, a 750-room hotel has opened across from it, and a number of smaller investments have added dining and shopping options in the city’s core.

all of the changes have added options or improved the pitch for spokane for kilday, who as the president and ceo of visit spokane heads up the organization tasked with bringing more people and events to town.

Diogenesister

Ha ha ha...I thought it would be one ( spooky stuff) or the other ( either dark = full calender busy) or very quiet

Kinda hoping for the wacky stuff!

Who is woodworth?!

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Any ExJw Millenials here? If not which Gen do you fall under?

by Hidethevelociraptors in

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if anyone had to guess, what do you think the average age of the community actually is?.

are more millennials actually waking up or is it pretty even amongst previous generations as well?

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Diogenesister

Giordano. So THATS why I love you so much 🙌🎸🌸🌈

Generation X here - raised by the greatest generation grandparents - double whammy, yeah!!!!!

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Did you KNOW Ray and Cynthia or the legal copyright holder? Only a few maybe had limited contact.

by blondie in

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friends

i have known all of them over the last 15 years, talked at length with them, and knew what their wishes were, the copyright holder and spouse spent even more time with them socially and helping them set up their arrangements for when ray and cynthia passed.

i don't believe that anyone else on this board or others was a confidant.

there is no need to prove it to anyone but the copyright office which is satisfied with this.

Diogenesister

Good points Tal & Kate - an addendum of sorts to this website? With points explored and refs to the book? That does mean extra space/ work for owner - or perhaps a sticky post on exjwreddit then?

The important thing is getting the info to places dubs will comfortably - ish look.

Its revolting that despite Cedars honest, straightforward attempts to resolve this with CH - which he has done TWICE to her satisfaction - meddling exJW Christians with an axe to grind have jumped in to shit stir , now for the third time when the whole thing was dead and buried according to cedars and CH.

What IS this doing to the reputation of serious minded exjw's, activists or not, in the eyes of wavering dubs?

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Identity Theft

by Jerryh in

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this forum offers the stories of folks with as many variations as there are folks and a “great crowd” of lurkers whose stories may never be offered.

i am an outsider with a broken heart for some insiders that i love more than they know.

after reading nearly every “apostate” book ever written, lurking, being worn out searching the wt cd, i have come to an idea that i present for your appraisal..

Diogenesister

Ps really enjoyed your post btw - you've put a great deal of thought into this - I really wish you all the best whatever the outcome.

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Identity Theft

by Jerryh in

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this forum offers the stories of folks with as many variations as there are folks and a “great crowd” of lurkers whose stories may never be offered.

i am an outsider with a broken heart for some insiders that i love more than they know.

after reading nearly every “apostate” book ever written, lurking, being worn out searching the wt cd, i have come to an idea that i present for your appraisal..

Diogenesister

In a word, no.

there is only one tenet that a JW must believe - that the governing body IS the faithful and discreet slave, the representatives of God on earth.

As you so correctly pointed out, if they don't know who THEY ARE can one be sure they know who you are? As for older ones there may be some room for them to not keep up with the chariot and believe that all the anointed 144,000 are the FDS but that's all the leeway a JW might get. To believe that ALL Christians are Christs brothers,saved , anointed with Holy Spirit or however you wish to put it - well, that would simply get you disfellowshipped if you spoke out which a Christian must do as Christ commanded to preach the good news.

sorry if this is going to be hard on you, were you perhaps thinking of joining for those you love???

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44 years old and having I.V.F help to have a baby thanks too bastard "this Generation" lies!! Wife wants kids in 2016! My story.

by Witness 007 in

as a young witness married couple in the 1990's we knew "this generation" of 1914 did not have long to go!

oh how cute a young pioneer couple we were.

we wont have kids till "afew more years pass" and we are in the new system.

Diogenesister

nowwhat?4 hours ago

I just got in under the wire I am now 55 with 3 teenagers. I would seriously consider adoption

LOL Nowwhat!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IF you cannot manage DEFINATELY consider alternatives like adoption, tho!

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44 years old and having I.V.F help to have a baby thanks too bastard "this Generation" lies!! Wife wants kids in 2016! My story.

by Witness 007 in

as a young witness married couple in the 1990's we knew "this generation" of 1914 did not have long to go!

oh how cute a young pioneer couple we were.

we wont have kids till "afew more years pass" and we are in the new system.

Diogenesister

Hi there and remember CALM DOWN SIR!! YOU MUSTN'T GET WORKED UP OR YOU WONT GET PREGNANT!!!That said, I wish you all the luck in the world..give it your ALL because u will never. Ever find anything that gives u more joy than kids of your own.

This is what I HATE so so so much about the org. I remember reading it was Ray Franze's only real regret...having no kids. I am so glad u are in a position to have kids but DO try to keep the misses stress free..enjoy yourselves , have the odd drink too( I think getting too worked up and health freaky has the opposite effect).

Thank goodness you and darkknight757 realized in time before it really WAS too late. Had my twins at 40...don't worry!!!

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Evolution is a Fact #7 - Human Egg Yolk Gene

by cofty in

exploring the human genome is like roaming around an historic town.

some places are pristine and obviously still in everyday use.

others have been unused for a while and starting to show signs of decay and if you look carefully there are relics of buildings that were abandoned long ago.. in this post we are going to look at a gene that we still carry in every cell in our body but which fell into disuse 10s of millions of years ago.. humans are placental mammals.

Diogenesister

I'm pretty certain you can see a vestigial yolk sac on a human fetus ...its called an umbilical vesicle...