Posts by Diogenesister

You can just picture it can't you - old Freddie Franze poring over his beloved Encyclopedia Brittanica and saying " HERE NATE..guess what it says about toasting ? No not Dr Alimantando, I mean as in cheers..the PAGANS began doing it as a form of libation to the GODS!!!PAGAN PRAYER, NATE!! Tell the boys to hold the front page...no more toasts to retiring Bethelites for 40 years of devoted service!! Hell....whilst were at it we may as well sack 'em too!...yes, Nate I know you love "Best Dressed Chicken in Town" but I mean the OTHER toas...oh never mind (sigh)"

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When Did Higher Education Become Taboo?

by Wild_Thing in

jw
friends

i have been reading about the early history of russelites/jws and in the beginning, it seems the organization was formed and headed by quite a few educated people.

lawyers, doctors, businessman.

you could buy voting rights within the organization for $1000, which by today's standard would be somewhere between $15,000 and $20,000, something most of us do not have on hand, unless you are highly educated and/or wealthy.

Diogenesister

or they get plenty of Higher Criticism [sic] in the high schools, and it will not be long before they have it in the common schools also."

so it's interesting,then that it appears to be a Biblical education that Russell was opposed to (hence the reference to"higher criticism")rather than a secular education. I expect he feared youngsters who were too well versed in Biblical exegeses and thus able to challenge "Pastor"Russell and his cocamamey Biblical interpretations .

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Should I get babtized?

by BlackWolf in

jw
friends

i know this sounds like a ridiculous question but i was talking with my mom in the car today and of course we got on the topic of getting babtized again.

she told me that jehovah holds me accountable for my sins regardless of wether i am babtized or not so i have no reason to be holding back because it won't change anything.

my parents are the type of super strict jw who will shun you just for not being a witness.

Diogenesister

Listen, since you know ttatt what would be the point of making false " friends" that will drop you like a hot potato as soon as you stop attending - save yourself the heartache of getting close to folks who are going to hurt you. Please try as best you can to forge bounds with normal kids at school or community college or neighbours. Start preparing your social network NOW. You're gonna need em.

As to your parents, the only way baptism would be useful is if you intend to move away andfade. However your parents don't sound like the types to stick to the letter of JW law but not the spirit, if they know you have faded they will shun u anyways so it seems utterly pointless. I think u should play the " I have doubts - help me" card. Make like you cannot dedicate till your 100 % convinced and that science lessons/ evolution has stumbled you. You will have to suffer more study with them but from what I know baptism has never helped anyone who knows ttatt in the long run. You are not your aunt, you are their SON....you never know,start preparing them now. If u don't get baptised they don't HAVE to shun you..are u their only child?

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WATCHTOWER SCAM? WTWR NYSE

by biblexaminer in

in 2009, a new company, traded on the new york stock exchange was initiated.. watchtower inc. wtwr.

corporate headquarters.

100 henry streetbrooklyn, new york 11201united states.

Diogenesister

This is a joke surely.....the Rebbe Schneerson is a very beloved rebbe from the Chabad community who passed away in 1994....bizzare

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"You wouldn't want to bring reproach on Jehovah's name, would you?"

by Esse quam videri in

what would be your reply?.

my reply: jehovah is big enough to take care of himself.. yours?.

Diogenesister

Being careful not to bring reproach on Jehovah's name would be like Jack the Ripper worrying that his flies might be undone in public.

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Richard Dawkins has had a Stroke

by cofty in

he is back home and making god progress.. he has issued an audio statement here....

Diogenesister

He said the stroke didn't affect the part of the brain that impacts your thinking. Does anyone know if that's a different part from the bit that makes you grumpy. I knew someone who was never grumpy but after they had a stroke they were always grumpy.

There was one guy whose IQ rocketed to 170 and another who became obsessed with marriage/ hyper sexualized and proposed to every women he met. Only problem was he was already married!

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Just have to say that Dawkins sounds a little bit sorry for himself in the audio.

DUDE! He's had a STROKE godammit do you know what that could mean to a man who lives by communication of his ideas?