Posts by Diogenesister

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2nd amendment right ... where should it end?

by Simon in

one thing i like to do to test a theory is to take things to extremes or to their logical conclusion to see if the premises still hold.

very often, a claim that seems to make sense at a superficial level falls apart when you start to stretch it a little.. so let's play a game.. suppose the 2nd amendment is valid, that some "well regulated militia" really is necessary to hold the government to account.. obviously when this was drafted the government had access to the weapons of it's day which would be muskets!

so muskets all round.

Diogenesister

hen all is going well I tend to agree no one needs weapons however you'll never sell me on the fact that when it all goes to hell in a handbasket that only government should be allowed to bear arms. When government breaks down due to invasion, bombing or whatever it is important to be able to protect yourself. If only the police have weapons and food is scarce what prevents them storming into your home taking what they want for their families and leaving you to starve?

????? I know its Pavlov's dog and all that and you guys are used to salivating over doomsday scenarios but the USA is not going to hell in a hand basket any time soon,

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Talking to a wall

by ivanatahan in

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why must these people be figurative walls when talking about the lies of the jw cult?.

the other day, i had a conversation with my mother.

we started talking about the election and how the candidates differ (me being a supporter of bernie).

Diogenesister

Noone will ban religion - it will just die a natural death in a few hundred years or more when humanity realize how absurd it is.

BTW if Jah is going to " put it into their hearts" to ban religion doesn't he know that the UN haven't then banned it, GOD HAS BANNED IT. I'm sure the all mighty creator of the universe can work out that little fallacy all by himself!

There has been quite a few bible prophecy's that haven't come true.

Egypt would be a barren wasteland, Nile will dry up, Nebuchadnezzar will destroy tyre, driving the jebusites out,Israel's borders will reach the Euphrates etc etc

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For fun: What should JW stand for?

by dbq407 in

judged worthless was one i thought of today.

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because anyone that isn't giving 100% all the time is judged by other witnesses as worthless..

Diogenesister

Jargon wallahs or jargon writers

Jerry-build wannabes or Jew wannabes

Job-less Whingers

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Within 2 years I see... KH Karaoke...Seriously

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

this evening at the clam the job video was played and then the stupid peer pressure video.

this was not so odd.

however on the last elijah section pictures from the imitate their faith book was place on screen to imagine the scenes.

Diogenesister

That's got to be Stephen Lett's son on the left behind Mark Sandersons bonce, if not he should adopt him!!!! ( in Sparky 1's pic)

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Unbelievable! Is this even allowed? Two elders from my hall RANDOMLY stopped by my apartment!

by macys in

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ok wow.

i am really really pissed.

i had to really hold back and bite my tongue.

Diogenesister

If you want to be reinstated you've got to expect this, whether its a genuine shepherding call or a " checking up on you" call - I don't understand why you are so shocked. Either way you are gonna have to bite the bullet and see them at some point if you want the reinstatement kiddo!

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Question for those still attending the Kingdom Hall

by ToesUp in

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this a question more out of curiosity, because we have not stepped foot in a kh in 3 years.. how is the attendance at the meetings/assemblies?

i know the answer will vary due to location.. are you (especially elders) receiving any notification or communication from bethel or co's that there is an upsurge of people that are simply disappearing or out right dis associating?.

thanks, in advance, for your feedback!

Diogenesister

Well,doubtfully yours I agree with you at least they are enjoying life....I believe its the only one we'll ever have so even though I want people to wake up if they DO stay dubs I would rarther they enjoy their lives...just sayin'!

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Conspiracy: Did the Watchtower set the memorial for the 23rd, because the GB practice Gematria? see for your selfs.

by goingthruthemotions in

so i have been thinking.

i know this is something taboo to the dubs, but f them.

i am a free moral agent.

Diogenesister

Yes you are right Juandefiero, I have been checking out that website ...its a jewish leap year and they add an extra month. Its the 15th that must fall on or after the equinox..thats where they got that bit of mis-information I read.

However, the Watchtower is WRONG that modern Jews dont celebrate on the 14th like Jesus did...they do..its essentially two celebrations on the 14th AND the 15th..the following explains why....

The Passover lamb was SLAIN "AT EVEN" (Lev. 23:5) -- Josephus shows it was essentially between 3-5 P.M. of Nisan 14. Then it had to be taken home from the Temple, put on a spit, and cooked -- roasted -- for hours. Therefore, the Passover meal was EATEN, and CELEBRATED, at night on Nisan 15. The Jews have always known this.

When Scripture says "they kept the Passover on the fourteenth day of the first month at evening," (Num.9:5), it is referring to the fact that the lambs were SLAIN at that time! But since you cannot slay and eat at the same time (unless you ate it raw!), you must add to that time of slaying the time needed for preparation, cooking, and eating, which must of necessity be several hours later -- or on the 15th.

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Conspiracy: Did the Watchtower set the memorial for the 23rd, because the GB practice Gematria? see for your selfs.

by goingthruthemotions in

so i have been thinking.

i know this is something taboo to the dubs, but f them.

i am a free moral agent.

Diogenesister

I think the Borg count Nissan 1st as the sunset after the full moon NEAREST the spring equinox, whereas the Jews begin Nissan as the full moon AFTER the spring equinox...hence you have such widely differing dates this year no??

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Why ExJW's should care about the FBI vs. Apple encryption case

by juandefiero in

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many people that don't keep up with technology news are, at best, vaguely aware that apple is fighting a court order to create a tool for the government to unlock one of the san bernadino terrorist's iphone.. what the fbi is asking for could jeopardize the security of all iphones.

besides the obvious possible slippery slope leading to governmental abuse of this technology they're asking apple to create, there is a more personal reason for many exjw's to be concerned about.. anytime you create a weakness in information security, there is always the possibility of that weakness being exploited.

sometimes, those weaknesses are difficult to exploit, sometimes they are easy.

Diogenesister

Even more worrying is the fact that the Borg routinely promotes and uses Apple products - how about they themselves checking for " moles" or any dissenters inside the org this way.....

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Our COBE(Coordinator Of Body of Elders) Cried at the Kingdom Hall

by James Jack in

it was announced recently, that "bro.

z is no long the coordinator(76 years old), bro y(60) is now the new coordinator of the body of elders".. you see, bro.

z has been an elder for 43 years and 35 of them as the cobe/po.

Diogenesister

It also, maybe unreasonably, makes me angry that they promote apple products that are so dang expensive.

I agree Great teacher skills can be taught but how on earth can pensioners afford iPads for goodness sakes??