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I've been found out!
by pale.emperor inwell, thats it folks.. my identity on here has been rumbled and reported to the elders.
someone, somehow, has figured out that im a member of this site and - rather than speak to me - has promptly reported me to the elders.
i just feel sad for my daughter.
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Harassment of Individual JWs
by Simon injust a reminder:.
please do not use this site to pursue, conduct or incite harassment of any individual jws who are not officers or directors of the organization.. if someone is guilty of some specific crime then it should be reported to the authorities but someone simply following their religious beliefs and taking part in their chosen religion should be free to do so without personal attacks..
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JWLeaks According to JW leadership theology ... the ruler of this world is Satan ... God loved the world so much that he sacrificed his son Jesus ... only JWs are in line to benefit from the sacrifice of Jesus and to live forever. Go figure.
Now THAT is a damn fine first line to get any dubs who come to your door to start thinking critically about their beliefs!!! Bookmarked sir! -
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Sergei isnt allowed to play violin, but Lindsey is!
by stuckinarut2 inso we all know that the gb have condemned the development of musical talents as shown in the latest movie of young sergei.. yet musical talents are a "gift from god" right??.
the gift of music could help inspire, uplift and "praise" him.
oh but , it could also distract a person and make them mix with "worldly" people... ah ha.... compare that to the mormons (lds).. they encourage musical skills!.
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Diogenesister
RIGHT ON FREE AGENGT & STUCKINARUT2!!!
Beautiful music BTW, the guitar style reminds me a little of virtuoso Kaki king
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Gum power chewers chewing powerfully at meetings
by TimeBandit inever been at a meeting and had a power gum chewer in attendance?
i mean, you can hear them smacking that gum from across the hall?
one time i saw her loading up.
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Jeeze...gum chewing was amoung the long list of prohibitions that witness kids had to endure in my neck of the woods. It was associated with teenagers ( stuck in the 50s )....therefore " must be bad".... " your stomach thinks its getting food then doesn't".
Wish those idiots were still around to find out its GOOD for you ( teeth).
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Anti-religion T-Shirt idea
by Simon ini want a t-shirt.
something that says "religion is crap, i don't care which one".. i was thinking of adapting the "coexist" one to say "toxic" instead which is great because it removes 'science' but includes all the major world religions.. anyone else have any ideas?.
also a tag-line ... "whatever god you worship, he's a weirdigan".
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I like the " your gods don't exist "except the christian fish comma should be replaced with the Muslim crescent .
Edit: I've wanted a really powerful one for a while...the Rartherfraud mug shot with the " snare & racket" quote is awsome...except of course most folk won't get it...least of all JW's!!!
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My wife blew my mind, Seth Andrews, and more....
by pronomono inso i recently had the opportunity to hear seth andrews speak in person at a local unitarian universalist church.
for those of you who know my past, i've had a bit of a difficult time dealing with the emotional aspects of a fade with a wife that says she believes but doesn't put forth the works that demonstrate that faith.
we've kind of been in a rocky point in our relationship because we've both been afraid to test the waters on where each of us stand.
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So pleased for you. You have to email and let him know! I'm sure it will do his heart good to know he played some part in helping a husband reach out to his indoctrinated wife....and maybe strengthen a marriage in the process? I wish you both all the best.....especially lovely to hear she's in contact with those she previously shunned!
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Father's Day is tomorrow (in the US). Why is it wrong?
by leaving_quietly ini did an examination of the one single article ever to address father's day since it's tomorrow here in the us.
the article covers both mother's day and father's day.
hope it's informative.. examination of “mother and father worship unscriptural”, the only article ever to address father’s day in any publication printed by the watchtower bible and tract society.
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Not " honouring" your father on father's day ( or mothers day) is just another way of seperating the JW " herd" from the rest of humanity - heaven knows we musn't have them identifying with their fellow man. Smiling at the card store at a colleague doing the same, discusing with a schoolchum what gift you want to buy, waving to a neighbour and his parents at the same restaurant you take your mum to. No integration, no sir!!!
Oh, and they want the cash you might spend on dads golf balls and after shave in the GB's pockets of course.
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Man I hate this F'ing cult!
by oppostate inthe nicest and kindest jw's seem to be the ones who are the least connected and active in the congregation.. i've been trying to fade and been missing quite a few meetings.. of course my wife still loyal as ever if not more so since i've awoken to ttatt.. every mid-week and sunday meeting i miss she gives me the silent treatment.. she's become more and more friendly with a regular pioneer younger than she is and wife of an elder, this to the letting go of regular contact with best friends in the 0rganization, whom she was closest to but were and aren't as active and regular at meetings and field service.. it's a crying shame, i'm closer and kinder to her old friends, keeping in touch through facebook posts now and then, encouraging them through the hardships, rejoicing with them during happy moments, graduations, welcoming a new child to the world, marriages, new jobs and what-not.. she has become a serious shunner, staying away from a lot of folks we were close to because they're not good association.. she's drunk the whole cup of kool-aid and anything i say that's remotely negative towards the 0rganization is met with stern retorts and accusations i'm apostate sounding.. and yet, she's still the kind hearted, loving person she used to be.
it's like she has a wt hat she dons and it changes her mind, her outlook, her behavior.
when dealing with neighbors, with people outside the kh, she's as nice as could be and i know this kind-heartedness is genuine--but it's been hi-jacked by this f'ing cult.
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Hi, have you read Steve Hassans book yet? Combatting cult mind control? If not do so....I reckon its time to get serious. Let's kick this cult to the curb. Is there any way you could contact Steve's organization for some help in dealing with this? Some expert help to guide you through the process of extracting your loved one from this cult. Slowly slowly catchey monkey. Get her out enjoying life, remind her why she fell in love with you....then using the Socratic method, and help from an expert on the end of a phone...or a therapist pre- briefed about her cult issues ( say u need her help in couples therapy cos your depression is hurting your marriage).....POW!!! HIT THOSE CULT CLAWS AROUND HER WITH EVERYTHING YOUVE GOT.
Don't give up..".Ill send out an SOS to the world!"🎵🎶 SOS = Save our Sister!!!!
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Supreme Court Of Russia bans Jehovah's Witnesses as an 'extremist organization'
by EdenOne inread the news here.
the jehovah's witnesses lost their appeal to the supreme court of russia.
bethel to be liquidated.. i bet the gb saw this coming ... here comes the persecution complex paranoia.
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Sanchy If you want to influence ppl into certain ideologies, you do it with information. You teach, educate, and patiently the market of ideas will create winners and losers. It takes time, but its the only right way to do it.
I fully agree with you Sanchy. You are also right that Russia has an unenviable record when it comes to gay rights.
My point is not that Russia is right to do this...but only that I understand WHY Watchtower is seen as an extremist religion with extremist views.
Further to your excellent point that in the market of ideas winners will come through .......when well researched information is placed before people they inevitably make the right choices.
But we have to remember that WT does not ALLOW its members to access said information and education, that its members may then make up their own minds.....they forbid them to access any information that may challenge WT agenda......that is when I believe the authorities have the right to protect the public.
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Supreme Court Of Russia bans Jehovah's Witnesses as an 'extremist organization'
by EdenOne inread the news here.
the jehovah's witnesses lost their appeal to the supreme court of russia.
bethel to be liquidated.. i bet the gb saw this coming ... here comes the persecution complex paranoia.
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Diogenesister
Guys, let's not confuse a govt preventing freedom of conscience with shutting down an organization that denies freedom of conscience to its members on a daily basis. Proliferates literature containing hate speach toward humans whose sex, sexuality, ethic religous, political and cultural differences do not square with WT ideas of what is acceptable.