I can't believe how understanding you are. It's one thing to decide that you are suddenly unsavoury characters and that they need the elders ok before they eat with you - quite another to decide this ten minutes into the dinner engagement. Rude is not the word.
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Dinner plans canceled because "I need to talk to the elders". Huh?
by Darkknight757 inso this past week the wife and i have received several phone calls and text messages from our old hall.
we were also invited out to dinner to catch up with some old friends.
an hour before dinner this guys wife messaged my wife and said that she "can't wait for tonight!!
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I found a list my Wife is makingof subjects i have told her about the BORG.
by goingthruthemotions inso me and my wife have not been on speaking terms for about 5 weeks, and when we do .
talk…it is arguing about the jw cult and more of a barrage from me telling here all the stuff i have learned.
i know i shouldn't do this....but, i get so freaking p.o ed aobut what this cult has done to my family.
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Gointhru are you disfellowshiped? If not it is a worry. But here's the thing. You sound like me so this advice comes from someone who completely understands. Have you tried sitting down, maybe after a special dinner ( I know that might be hard if things have got beyond that point but try) and really pouring your heart out. No raised voice, no arguing, no Borg talk, just " I am scared for our family, marriage whatever...if I'm bird food can't you give me this small few years? No one in the hall is going to care for you in old age, sickness and health etc and get the truth out of her. On her word as someone who should not lie much less to her mate. The Borg use emotional manipulation. You use your emotions ( only it's not manipulation Its how you really feel as a human and a husband, You are actually frightened. Tell her many folks do this by stealth but you can't help but let how you think and feel come out.
My instinct is this list is both. For her own research and possibly a list to show elders...she's confused. She's being torn. I'm sorry for her, I'm sorry for you. And it makes me mad too. But she is listening too you, deep down there is that little voice that says this man has not done me wrong before, he was a witness....he wouldn't be a fool and throw it in for nothing. She knows there's something wrong.
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Advanced Warning I - WT August 2016 "Study" articles re "Reaching Out"
by Nicholaus Kopernicus inthe brief outline for this item makes reference to the most recent wt on the subject of "reaching out" (august 2016 - pages 20 - 29) if you are a jehovah's witness and thinking about becoming a ministerial servant or elder, then please consider the following information prior to attending the kh for this week’s wt “study” and the week after.
first - if you hope to become an elder, in the uk you will also become a charitable trustee.
you will not be given any training for this part of your role.
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Nicolaus Kopernicus Tried to like your post but it didn't work. Anyway well said👍
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Do they know what 7.5 billion dead bodies look like?
by jambon1 inin their sick and twisted bubble that they live in, the jehovahs witnesses clearly have no idea about the logistical nightmare of disposing of 7.5 billion corpses.. when i heard an elder once say that it will be a joy to clear away the wicked from the earth, he actually had a smile on his face.. can they even begin to imagine what 7.5 billion dead men, women, children & babies looks like?.
"let the eye feel no sorrow".
sick bastards..
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Just seeing a tiny fraction of that number traumatised the allied soldiers who liberated Belsen and Auchwitz for life.
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If a JW Came To Your Door How Would You Handle It?
by minimus injehovah's witnesses have never come to my door but they have come to my girlfriends door.
i have coached her as to what to say or ask but it appears that they always seem to come when she's not there.
.....just curious would you get into it with a jehovah's witness at your door especially if it was someone you did not know?.
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Fernando I have a friend who did talk about Grace with me, and I'll be honest...I didn't understand, I really didn't 'get' it. I didn't know the witnesses translated it as " loving- kindness"...That came years later. It took an awful lot of research, (and other things that convinced me they didn't have 'the truth')before I finally understood the concept. So even if they had posed that simple question, would we have understood?
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Hey everyone
by coffee_black inpopping in to say hi.... been away from the forum for a long time.... had some serious health issues starting at the beginning of this year.
on the mend now, and getting back into the swing of things.... great to be alive!.
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Hello Coffee_black.
Don't think we've met I've only been here about a year. Good to know you are getting better. I'm in my late 40s and have had some health problems for the first time last couple of years, had a near miss a year ago...so I know how it feels a little. Life is good, young one's appreciate your health!!!
Had a little look at your bio and I'm Glad your family is with you and no attachments to the WT!🌹get well soon, anyway all the best and hi!
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Impact of NWT
by menrov inhi all, just recently i was thinking about the period of my study and eventual baptism as jw.
it took many years, i guess in all about 10 years.
various times i stopped the study but after a while it started again.
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Chook Out comes the white rabbit out of Toni Morris pants LOL 😂😂
I knew a couple of old dears back in the 70s 80s that used the King James at the Kingdom Hall, baptised so long ago who knew if their was a NWT back then.
Menrov I too liked the Good News - I was given it at a kids summer hols thing run in our local park. It was run by some Evangelicals, games, food , fun for bored kids in the hols in the UK ( we didn't have summer camps like the USA). It was the most fun I ever had in my childhood. I thought I was in heaven. Parents didn't know, just thought I was in the park playing.
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Big Day fast approaching Letting go
by rebelfighter inthe big day is two days away when she will say "i do".
i knew this day would come someday but as a mom you just want to hold on even though i did everything to train her to be very independent.
she has been making most of her own decisions since middle school.. she moved away 5 years ago but still was totally mine till 2 years ago when mr. wonderful appeared in her life.
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WingCommander !!!! Get back to bomber command and stop being a Debbie downer!!
Enjoy your day Rebelfighter you've done your best for your girl now it's up to them! ( I've always found superglue on your dress works quite well if you change your mind!)
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Going To A Christening Next Week
by pale.emperor inso my girlfriends, friend has invited me to her little boy's christening.
6 months ago if you'd asked me this i'd have recoiled in horror.
in a catholic church?!!!
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Ahhh....Remember to "wet the baby's head" for me! That's an old tradition you might approve of! It involves those old enough to imbibe to drink a toast ( or three) to the future health of the baby. Enjoy the day...as Astronomer Royal Martin Rees says about church " I do it for the tribe". It's a lovely welcome to a New life, I always think what will this little one see that I could never have dreamed of.
Rebelfighter I love to attend church purely to listen to the choir at Kings College.
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Serious question..Leviticus 20:15 Why slay the beast???
by James Mixon init's not as if the sheep was trying to seduce the shepherd, the poor creature was violated.
we have come a long way from those days, thank goodness.
so why slay the sheep or beast?????
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Smiddy good point.
If Adam hadn't been so fussy....with that in mind....
I had a friend who used to say that it would be so much more exciting if you didn't know what you were going to give birth to... "Oh look, I've had a monkey" or " ahhh, it's a baby kangaroo". She actually didn't want kids but was desperate for a pet penguin.
Just sayin'....😋