Posts by Diogenesister

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Remember this old timers?

by ScottyRex in

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qltpqze_kyi.

on a previous post mamacita29 pointed up the low quality of new jw converts.. is the quality falling even more as the society use lower than low meeting, talks, broadcasts etc.. when i was active initially the organisation and standards seemed totally different today.

i have seen hard working intelligent elders fall by death or exhaustion.

the younger generation that came along never really grasped responsibility hence shortage of good elders, never mind the watered down to almost nothing quality of meetings.

Diogenesister

Although the magazine's handed out to the public are smaller and simpler nowadays, I think the argument that the content has become less intellectually challenging is laughable.

The older Awake and Watchtower articles may appear to have more stimulating content but the truth is that most of it is disable goble-de-hook such as

Giants v. Dwarves

Demons

All sorts of pseudo-medical clap-trap such as aluminium pots being dangerous and the heart really governing emotion, anti-vax rubbish etc

Even the so-called deep Bible studies are replacement theory rubbish such as the Franz's anti-type cobblers and the UN stuff.

Try reading it sometime. Its rubbish and always has been.

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How many JWs actually died in Nazi camps

by dogon in

the jws have tried to pad the number of jws in camps.

how many actually went and how many died?

can you site the source also?

Diogenesister

Phizzy here I smell the whiff of JW propaganda and dissembling is in the WT/JW Org saying that the reason many of the surviving JW's left the Org in the years after gaining freedom was that they "succumbed to materialism".

Dear God I cannot believe the Watchtower had the audacity to print that!

Those of you who think we are over-reacting to Watchtower's untrustworthy nephariousness just meditate on the sentence above...their acusation that jw concentration camp survivors left the org after "succumbing to materialism".

Orphan Crow as always thank you for your well researched contribution to the thread.

And just to finish mad Irishman many contributors to this forum are extremely well educated.

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Charitable works are not the foremost consideration of Christians

by Lostandfound in

remember that from the sermon outline booklet for field service use.. my question would be, has wt or witnesses performed any charitable works, even as a secondary condition.. i know of none, maybe you do..

Diogenesister

Scratchme1010 well said.

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Poor people are sub-human?

by Alostpuppydog in

has anyone noticed how many jw's really seem to be rollin in it?

escpecially the elders, and they treat their subordinates like filthy gum on the bottom of their shoe?

just wondering because i too am poorer than poor and have spent a fourth of my life homeless already and i am 22.. another thing to consider is why domost of the population on this planet seem to hate the poor, even though we outnumber the middle class and the rich greatly?

Diogenesister

A lostpuppydog you don't have to explain yourself to some of these judgemental, got lucky fools.

You're not In a JC here, kid.

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Poor people are sub-human?

by Alostpuppydog in

has anyone noticed how many jw's really seem to be rollin in it?

escpecially the elders, and they treat their subordinates like filthy gum on the bottom of their shoe?

just wondering because i too am poorer than poor and have spent a fourth of my life homeless already and i am 22.. another thing to consider is why domost of the population on this planet seem to hate the poor, even though we outnumber the middle class and the rich greatly?

Diogenesister

The rebel Because many teenagers in England got knocked up because it was good business, and required no education, but entitled the person to free housing and benefits . I blame the government for being so stupid to allow teenagers to simply get knocked up, and be set up for life. That's the pathetic point. Where was the responsible accountable behavior from the government that didn't prevent this happening? Please note governments, its my taxes that pay for your mismanagement.

Oh The ignorance is stunning.

Some young teens fall pregnant because They lack any love in their life, quite often, with an alcoholic or violent parent. Sometimes they grow up in care homes etc etc and if you think a life of miserable poverty, living on benefits in a council flat is being set up for life then why don't you try it? Or if male recommend it to your daughter???

Have you ever seen the film " Cathy come home"? It kick started help for single mothers as the protagonist becomes homeless and has to literally flee from the authorities, who find her at a railway station in the last, heartbreaking scene, where they take away her children .

Most teen moms try hard to get an education and an awful lot, despite horrendous starts, turn their lives around. A few are too damaged to do so, but do you really envy them or think they are happy or " cushy"??

Why don't you talk about the huge swath of middle and upper classes who inherit their money And fiddle their taxes, baby boomers who got lucky getting mortgages for peanuts and do the same.

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Elders School 2017: New instructions to handle sexual abuses?

by sp74bb in

an informant in spanish forum, active elder in a congregation in madrid (spain) has posted new info regarding elders school 2017. important changes are to be done for "child" or sexual abuses.

https://abusostj.vbulletin.net/forum/main-forum/audiencias-judiciales/5506-escuela-de-ancianos-2017.

doing a summary:.

Diogenesister

Jimmy, now that you understand you can report this to the police if you want, take a moment to consider the reproach that would bring on Jehovah's name."

Zoos you got it.

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Elders School 2017: New instructions to handle sexual abuses?

by sp74bb in

an informant in spanish forum, active elder in a congregation in madrid (spain) has posted new info regarding elders school 2017. important changes are to be done for "child" or sexual abuses.

https://abusostj.vbulletin.net/forum/main-forum/audiencias-judiciales/5506-escuela-de-ancianos-2017.

doing a summary:.

Diogenesister

Keinlezard It look like bulgaria and blood policies .. jw are not "disfellowed" by Organisation, but if they accept blood they disfellow themself from Organisation.

Keinlezard You hit the nail on the head. Its exactly a case of appearing to comply with the letter of EU law whilst totally ignoring the spirit of the law.

Talk about Pharisee's.

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The JW governing body are all overweight, creepy looking little men

by jambon1 in

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having seen a few of these tv productions and some youtube clips of their assembly parts, how can jehovah's witnesses really take these silly little men seriously?.

you take one look at them; their overweight, fat little bodies.

their entirely shabby, overhanging suits.

Diogenesister

Cold steel What would you think of an aging apostle Peter, for example? A fisherman? Or the apostle Paul, a zealous Jew turned Christian? We probably would be disillusioned a bit, no?

You make a very good point, of course, cold steel. The apostle Peter was of course a fisherman, a pretty Labour intensive job I would think, with a great diet so I am guessing he'd at least be a very slimline, probably muscular or wiry guy! As for Paul, although he's always portrayed as bald and aging yet again I'd imagine he'd be incredibly toned with all his travells and obviously his intellect and drive would be pretty attractive qualities.

I can't imagine either being too concerned with appearance ( no perfectly ironed toga's and pinky rings) which I personally find very attractive in a man.

My husband told me there is one supposed description of Jesus that (contrary to Watchtower's George Clooney looking Jesus types) has him as a four foot something hunchback....I will ask him where this description is found, unless you guys know?

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My wife and I are hooked on European series screening on SBS TV

by smiddy in

whether they be norwegian ,danish ,french or whatever , having sub-titles doesnt bother us as their usually is a mix of english dialogue as well.. some examples : tracked ,the tunnell ,the bridge ,dicte ,borgen ,just to name a few.another one i`m watching now about the middle east the name just escapes right now .. anybody else watching these shows ?.

Diogenesister

Always loved European films since my teen years. I would love to see the original "Humans". When my son was 9 he and I got hooked on a Norwegian political drama, female lead, but the name escapes me. How can I get this channel as it sounds right up my street, is it a sky thing?