Posts by Diogenesister

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THIS Is How Muslim Mother “Fixes” Rape Of 2-Year-Old Granddaughter By Grandfather

by Hecce in

saw this dated 2/26/2017, seems to be from 12/2015.. .

even in a religious culture that advocates the murder of victims as honorable, fathers and brothers are typically the perpetrators of horrific violence against female family members whose only crime was to be the victim of another, the killing of a child by its mother stands out as particularly unnatural and depraved.such a heinous act occurred recently in sohag, egypt when a mother of a two-year-old child took the life of her child rather than protect it from violent sexual assault by its own grandfather.. a muslim mother identified only as “merfat” was awakened by screams in the middle of the night and found her father, faraj, in the act of raping her daughter.. .

rather than acting out of a natural, protective instinct, the 23-year-old mother chose to shield her father from scandal as taught by muslim theology and sharia law.. merfat told authorities that she took her daughter, little grace ahmed, from the grandfather, placed her in a tub and held her head under water until the child drown.. alik akhmim, chief detective of the police in sohag told egyptian reporters that “traces of blood” had been found in the little girl’s anus, evidencing the degree of force and injury the child endured at the hands of her mother’s father.. this kind of act is referred to as an “honor killing” thought to place the reputation of the family above that of any individual member, and which is used to punish the victim rather than hold the perpetrator accountable.. murdering rape victims is common in countries and communities that adhere to sharia law where the crime is rarely reported for fear of exposing the family to shame.. “honor killing” is no longer limited to predominantly muslim countries or the middle east.

Diogenesister

t's reprehensible, but is being dealt with as crimes by the authorities, and should be prosecuted harshly. Hopefully, it will die out as the younger generations begin to assimilate into the general population.

Sadly most of the child grooming rings in the north of England are 2nd and 3rd generation Muslims. Huge Muslim communities have been around here since the late 1950's and early to mid 1960's.

I'm not specifying where the honour killings stem from, merely stating it has been a problem for some years.

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Sister at Kingdom Hall visibly upset "they took jehovahs name out of song"

by hoser in

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i went to meeting today and the sister in front of me was upset song 134 now song 139 no longer contains jehovahs name.

they took it out.

i never even noticed .

Diogenesister

Why didn't they do

"Thank you, Jehovah, for all you have done"

I can see how "how well you have done!!"

Sounds very patronizing though!

I heard a few recent prayers, too, that kept giving so much glory and praise to the Governing Body.

Really it's quite sickening...The elders go ON AND ON AND ON thanking the GLORIOUS ONES, the govbod, with a quick mention of God at the end. Anyone else notice that change recently??

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JWs and legalized Marijuana

by jws in

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i know this was probably covered before in some post, but i was curious.

what is the jw stance on recreational marijuana use in the states where it has been legalized?.

i would suspect smoking it, like cigarettes, would probably still be against the rules, but there are ways to use it that aren't damaging to your lungs.

Diogenesister

NotenoughwhiskeyImagine the mass exodus if they banned alcohol?

Forget bunker paranoia...now that would be a test of faith!!

Orphancrow Wow I had no idea jw's suffered from high levels of GI bleeds. If they get varicies though they need a blood transfusion, no question. Many must die. Another dangerous blood statistic they keep under wraps.

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JWs and legalized Marijuana

by jws in

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i know this was probably covered before in some post, but i was curious.

what is the jw stance on recreational marijuana use in the states where it has been legalized?.

i would suspect smoking it, like cigarettes, would probably still be against the rules, but there are ways to use it that aren't damaging to your lungs.

Diogenesister

Oh yeah I can see

Greeks ( boo hiss) = intellectuals = Pharmakia = Spiritism

Like

Masturbation =covetousness = idolatory

Yup...same cock-eyed logic So I can believe it!!

See: jwfacts.com on Masturbation

( more like mass- perturbation!

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Bethel Library moving to Warwick, are older items 'vanishing'

by Lostandfound in

in a post re dates etc from fatfreek reference was made to huge library at bethel with items dating back to pastor rs day.

like the year 1975 which has vanished from wt theology, are gb using move to let them put all old and inconvenient items into some sort of cold storage and off library shelves.

already the revelation book has gone from the orgs website, and that was quite recent relatively, we studied it 3 times at congregation book study, yet now, like type and antitype it mysteriously was never there.

Diogenesister

LostandfoundI think you have a very good point. They had no worries offloading the old folks before the move to Warwick...don't want them making the place look untidy, do we? I wonder if they'll "loose" a few old text books on the move over, particularly the more embarrassing ones. Oh I know there are other copies, but those are in the 'world' and verboten to the faithfull.

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jehovah witness elder molest his daughter ... Lynn Gardner

by jaydee in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boizyklif4q.

Diogenesister

Powerful. My heart breaks for this woman, I hope she has found some peace from doing this incredibly brave interview.

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Day 1 - Fessler vs. Watchtower – Opening Statements and Motions in Jehovah’s Witness Child Abuse Trial

by AndersonsInfo in

news bulletin: fessler versus watchtower – opening statements and motions in jehovah’s witness child abuse trial – day 1. .

posted on february 12, 2017. city hall, philadelphia, pennsylvania.

on a cold philadelphia morning the 7th of february, 2017, stephanie fessler walked into the court of common pleas of pennsylvania, first judicial district, civil trial division.

Diogenesister

Dead right sparky one, in fact they used to term ministerial servants " deacons" at one point, so much for the lay persons claim. How many times have they insisted they are ministers of religion even....especially whilst trying to avoid various civic and military duties.

Elders = vicars/priest/pastor

CO = bishop

Branch staff = archbishop

GB = ( you guessed it) Popes!

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The Fundamental difference between Islam and Christianity

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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ever since i came out of the witnesses, i've become very political.. i've heard lots of arguments back and forth for many things.. in the u.s. there is the argument that it is "racist" to want to deny entry to muslims.

while there is freedom of religion, there is also the very valid concern of maintaining democracy and a justice system that is based on modern values.we as exjw's constantly quote the pew center for statistics on jw's such as: they are last place in the us for members of a religion that go to university, and second-last for poverty levels of members of a religion.

we accept those statistics and mention them as proof of how damaging the jw's are.now, let's use the same center for some very scary statistics on islam:http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/22/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/.

Diogenesister

good post I loveTTATT2 , the western democratic nations are going to rue the day they let in so many muslims.

What I don't understand Smiddy is that we in Britain ( I know you're a Brit)and France have had fairly large Muslim communities for at least 60 years - in some places they are in the majority. We haven't had any *problems, so why all the trouble now?

I have my own theories, but even so.

*Edited to say no problems specific to their being Muslim immigrants . Certainly didn't hear anything about the "S"(sharia) word.

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The Fundamental difference between Islam and Christianity

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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friends

ever since i came out of the witnesses, i've become very political.. i've heard lots of arguments back and forth for many things.. in the u.s. there is the argument that it is "racist" to want to deny entry to muslims.

while there is freedom of religion, there is also the very valid concern of maintaining democracy and a justice system that is based on modern values.we as exjw's constantly quote the pew center for statistics on jw's such as: they are last place in the us for members of a religion that go to university, and second-last for poverty levels of members of a religion.

we accept those statistics and mention them as proof of how damaging the jw's are.now, let's use the same center for some very scary statistics on islam:http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/22/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/.

Diogenesister

Rainbow _Troll Can you tell us anymore about these " satanic verses"? About these daughters of Allah please?

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What has been your own personal experience of shunning?

by UnshackleTheChains in

i am interested in finding out on a small scale the extent of which shunning has impacted on you personally.. my own experience is that when i faded about 12 years ago.

the woman whose house the book study was held at (and who was virtually a neighbour) walked right past me in my own street.

i remember it so well.

Diogenesister

Baby girl30 So much so that they have walked right by me and literally acted like I do not exist. It's really pathetic...

Unshaklethechains God help those with low self esteem and those with mental health problems, those especially who are young. I mean for God's sake one poster has experienced shunning since 16!!!!

This just makes me rage, and I'm a mild mannered type in person.

But I genuinely believe that parents who do that - walk past their kids, shun from 16, shun the depressed, the Ill, the grandkids, the pregnant hell anykids, should be charged by the government for a full course of psychotherapy for their children no matter their age and should be publicly named And shamed as unfit parents. Ooooo how I wish I could prosecute them for child abandonment!!! We are all our parents children.

Monsters!