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Watchtower Doctrines JWs most commonly don't believe

by Diogenesister in

there was a recent thread on another site where posters maintained that many of the *most* long-standing jw's don't believe at least one official watchtower doctrine.

i've even read reports from bethelites saying they've heard bethel overseers say they don't believe some watchtower theology.

this made me think - i believe there are a few official doctrines that are common for many jw's to be either in denial about or simply not really believe ( often one and the same thing).. i'd say these are pretty high in the ranking:.

Diogenesister

Smiddy They seem to reason that if the big "A" doesnt come in their lifetime they will hedge their bets by claiming to be of the annointed class and partake at the Memmorial Celebration.

Wow Smiddy I didn't think of that as an extremely plausible reason as to why then numbers of anointed are creeping up pretty fast. Of course! They are hedging their bets! They are thinking " maybe Jesus did command that we *all* do this in remembrance - it's sure not gonna hurt"

Blues Brother I contend that we on here discuss and are more aware of the revised teachings on prophecies than the congregation are.

Of that I've no doubt. Perhaps, given the wackiness of recent GB pronouncements ( over-lapping generations, mediator only for 144,000) they don't *want* to know!

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Watchtower Doctrines JWs most commonly don't believe

by Diogenesister in

there was a recent thread on another site where posters maintained that many of the *most* long-standing jw's don't believe at least one official watchtower doctrine.

i've even read reports from bethelites saying they've heard bethel overseers say they don't believe some watchtower theology.

this made me think - i believe there are a few official doctrines that are common for many jw's to be either in denial about or simply not really believe ( often one and the same thing).. i'd say these are pretty high in the ranking:.

Diogenesister

I'd like to add some more, I'm not sure If I can edit the original post, but the blindingly obvious one is:

*Over-lapping generations*!!

Oral sex between married's and general interference by Watchtower in that department

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Connection between shunning and Alzheimer's

by poopie in

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another reason to stop social isolation..

Diogenesister

Poopie you make an excellent point.

Btw do you attend the Alzheimer's assoc. meetings? I'm thinking of doing so.

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Watchtower Doctrines JWs most commonly don't believe

by Diogenesister in

there was a recent thread on another site where posters maintained that many of the *most* long-standing jw's don't believe at least one official watchtower doctrine.

i've even read reports from bethelites saying they've heard bethel overseers say they don't believe some watchtower theology.

this made me think - i believe there are a few official doctrines that are common for many jw's to be either in denial about or simply not really believe ( often one and the same thing).. i'd say these are pretty high in the ranking:.

Diogenesister

Compound Co. Of course you are right, even the GovBod are victims of victims.

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Watchtower Doctrines JWs most commonly don't believe

by Diogenesister in

there was a recent thread on another site where posters maintained that many of the *most* long-standing jw's don't believe at least one official watchtower doctrine.

i've even read reports from bethelites saying they've heard bethel overseers say they don't believe some watchtower theology.

this made me think - i believe there are a few official doctrines that are common for many jw's to be either in denial about or simply not really believe ( often one and the same thing).. i'd say these are pretty high in the ranking:.

Diogenesister

Steel3 hours ago3 hours ago
I don't think the average jw likes to admit they essentially teach salvation though works and obedience and there dogma is one is outside of having a relationship with God.
Yes, excellent point, thank you !This *definitely* comes under the denial category, as, despite numerous scriptures to the contrary, Watchtower dogma is as you say regarding essentially only works to gain salvation. This is a major one for sure.
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Watchtower Doctrines JWs most commonly don't believe

by Diogenesister in

there was a recent thread on another site where posters maintained that many of the *most* long-standing jw's don't believe at least one official watchtower doctrine.

i've even read reports from bethelites saying they've heard bethel overseers say they don't believe some watchtower theology.

this made me think - i believe there are a few official doctrines that are common for many jw's to be either in denial about or simply not really believe ( often one and the same thing).. i'd say these are pretty high in the ranking:.

Diogenesister

Pale. Empower Great video, Thanks ! Did you do the video? I love the " Schindlers List" musical arrangement there.💓

I always tell people that family are allowed normal relations with DF ones and can *only not talk about spiritual things*. As far as I know, despite the horrible convention videos, that has never officially changed!

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Watchtower Doctrines JWs most commonly don't believe

by Diogenesister in

there was a recent thread on another site where posters maintained that many of the *most* long-standing jw's don't believe at least one official watchtower doctrine.

i've even read reports from bethelites saying they've heard bethel overseers say they don't believe some watchtower theology.

this made me think - i believe there are a few official doctrines that are common for many jw's to be either in denial about or simply not really believe ( often one and the same thing).. i'd say these are pretty high in the ranking:.

Diogenesister

Wow Compound Co. that's incredible about old Knorr!!

Its hard to be too sympathetic with him, though, as you would with a regular Jo. Although he went along with Cheif loony Fred Franz, the very least he could have done is out-law shunning and DF. That way, should others have his doubts, they would be spared the consequences he would never have had to face.

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Watchtower Doctrines JWs most commonly don't believe

by Diogenesister in

there was a recent thread on another site where posters maintained that many of the *most* long-standing jw's don't believe at least one official watchtower doctrine.

i've even read reports from bethelites saying they've heard bethel overseers say they don't believe some watchtower theology.

this made me think - i believe there are a few official doctrines that are common for many jw's to be either in denial about or simply not really believe ( often one and the same thing).. i'd say these are pretty high in the ranking:.

Diogenesister

Distracted I remember they used to say that resurrected people (to an earthly resurrection) probably(?) won't be able to marry, have sex, or produce offspring. They would be like the angels. I'm sure people had problems with that one, especially if they lost a mate in death.The literature did not hold out any hope for a differing view on that point.

Hi, thank you, good point! That's definitely one I remember " rumblings" about - I don't know if it is still "official"...I think they haven't mentioned it for a long time ( I guess they want to limit the flip flops!)

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Watchtower Doctrines JWs most commonly don't believe

by Diogenesister in

there was a recent thread on another site where posters maintained that many of the *most* long-standing jw's don't believe at least one official watchtower doctrine.

i've even read reports from bethelites saying they've heard bethel overseers say they don't believe some watchtower theology.

this made me think - i believe there are a few official doctrines that are common for many jw's to be either in denial about or simply not really believe ( often one and the same thing).. i'd say these are pretty high in the ranking:.

Diogenesister

There was a recent thread on another site where posters maintained that many of the *most* long-standing jw's don't believe at least one official Watchtower doctrine. I've even read reports from Bethelites saying they've heard Bethel overseers say they don't believe some Watchtower theology.

This made me think - I believe there are a few official doctrines that are common for many jw's to be either in denial about or simply not really believe ( often one and the same thing).

I'd say these are pretty high in the ranking:

That *everyone* Will die at Armageddon ( kids included) who are not jw's

The historicity of the flood

Gay People " choose" to be that way

Jesus is *only* the mediator for the 144,000

Can anyone think of more ( I haven't included Watchtower traditions like no beards, women participating more in cong responsibilities like sound booths, bible reading, literature desk etc and counting time but perhaps you guys would ) Perhaps someone would like to attempt a list in order of a rough percentage estimate of each "DODGY DOCTRINE"!!( not that they all aren't )

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Lott video and " Vanity" of modern JW women

by Diogenesister in

one thing i picked up from the " remember the wife of lott" video was the amount of time the jw women gave over to improving their looks.. in days of old i doubt a jw wife would have been portrayed in a salon having a lot of beauty treatments .. that's not to say it would be looked down on, per sa, i just doubt it would have been portrayed on official propaganda videos as an acceptable way for jw women to spend time that could be otherwise given over to promoting " kingdom interests".

given the way the org uses anything to belittle women i'm surprised they let those scenes fly without negative comment.. just a minor point ....i know the vids have been done to death by now!!

!.

Diogenesister

One thing I picked up from the " Remember the Wife of Lott" video was the amount of time the jw women gave over to improving their looks.

In days of old I doubt a jw wife would have been portrayed in a salon having a lot of beauty treatments .

That's not to say it would be looked down on, per sa, I just doubt it would have been portrayed on official propaganda videos as an acceptable way for jw women to spend time that could be otherwise given over to promoting " kingdom interests". Given the way the org uses anything to belittle women I'm surprised they let those scenes fly without negative comment.

Just a minor point ....I know the vids have been done to death by now!!!

Diogenesister

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