win my first post i introduced you to tweedle dee and tweedle dum, ( surprise elders visit ).
well last sunday night i got phone call from t- dum, he informed me that t-dee was listening in, no doubt practicing his short hand.
t-dum went on to say how he was concerned that we were making the biggest mistake of our lives, yada yada.
Great story, very amusingly written.
At first, I thought oh, c'mon, just let it go but you know what...their behaviour stinks. They know darn well what they do..." keep your mouth shut" How dare he!!! Honestly, they are like the mafia ( minus the violence)NOT YOU! Threatening people like that especially when they hold your family hostage.
i have just seen the film "dunkirk".
do yourselves a big favour and go see it.
(not for kids).
I can't wait to see it.
The truth is, though, that it was Hitler's resistance to finishing his trapped prey off that allowed them to escape.
i suppose this is one of those pieces of news that could have been posted in the entertainment section.. yes, isis fighters have been caught by the iraqi army trying to flee mosul dressed as women.. some have been caught wearing the full face veil.
a sensible choice, as it hides those masculine cheekbones, heavy jaw or five o' clock shadow.
others have been more creative, dressing like prostitutes in a shakespeare play.
might have helped if Mrs. Upper right had shaved her beard!!
i have just seen the film "dunkirk".
do yourselves a big favour and go see it.
(not for kids).
>Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without an accordion
Er.....WW1???
I would say France was the Russia of WW1. I know it's a meme but just sayin'
i finally stopped attending the meetings about 4 months go.
i won't be going back - ever.. but i've decided the best reply to the watchtower is to be happy and i do try to be happy every day even thought i wasted my entire life on this religion.
i cherish every day, practice mindfulness and do my best to be content with the life i have.. it is only now that i see that most jws i know are deeply unhappy people.
PheobeIt's a strange, but nice feeling, taking each day as it comes without worrying that I'm not good enough and if I didn't do better God would kill me. Jeez! 60 odd years of that!!! I can't get the time back but think myself lucky that I did finally see the truth and been set free.
Many awake younger JWs don't know whether they should help awaken their 50 plus mum's and Dads , often very depressed people on meds, who bemoan their lack of friends at the hall. One lassie's mum's husband left her, she was desperately miserable until she found a hobby and a wonderful worldly friend. Well, wouldn't you know it they guilted her into giving that up in order to " do more" for the Org.
I would love people like her to see your post - I always encourage them wake their parents unless their is a very particular extenuating factor.
ever heard of it?
i have but never realized the full meaning.
this is the tactic the wtbs uses to control people.
And they are so, so clever to stick random ( in the sense they have nothing to do with their claims) Bible quotes in amongst that toxic rubbish.
I mean ok, no one should be " quickly shaken from ( their) reason," but really what in hells name has that to do with sticking with the WTBTS???
i was born in 1984 so was only 9yo in 1995. i read on various posts on here and on other websites about false expectations about 1975 and 1995. i'm aware of the 1975 failure but what was said in 1995?.
Armageddon delayed......again.
we all know the rate of suicide is high among jw's.
my question is this- was there some subliminal messages that encourage this.
i was a born in and my entire life i would have these thoughts that could come out of nowhere,"kill yourself.
MOrpheus If you only knew one suicide in however many years in a big city I would say you were very lucky. Check out the exjw reddit sub - we get postings grieving the death of friends ( accompanied with newspaper articles often) every few weeks. They tend to be young, tragically, and stuck in (Pimo) or DF and shunned.
Perhaps you are right, some of these people would have suffered depression anyway, JW or not .Perhaps the statistics for jw's are the same as for the General population. But I would say two things to you.
1) control has increased over the years
2) shunning has increased, too
This has made things worse since your day
we all know the rate of suicide is high among jw's.
my question is this- was there some subliminal messages that encourage this.
i was a born in and my entire life i would have these thoughts that could come out of nowhere,"kill yourself.
Telling children that the world is going to end in destruction is a form of child abuse, because they are black and white thinkers and don't have the psychological coping skills to cope with the idea of world destruction. Some children may conclude that the only way for them to avoid the future doom, is to die now.
This was me Pete Zahut
we all know the rate of suicide is high among jw's.
my question is this- was there some subliminal messages that encourage this.
i was a born in and my entire life i would have these thoughts that could come out of nowhere,"kill yourself.
They often don't care about themselves enough to get good help or don't have the energy to do so.
Absolutely Dubstepped people with mental illness often " fall through the cracks" if they don't have anyone who is willing to seek help for them. Either because they don't approve of the help offered, like JWs, are being shunned or they just don't pick up on the cues.
Remember most depressed people don't see a lot of people and withdraw into themselves. This alone puts JWs at risk since if you fail to get involved in JW life you will be pre-emptively shunned too, making them even more alone.
