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  Hypocritical elders

  by JimmyYoung in

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  2. beliefs

  i used to work with an elder every day for several years.

  one thing that helped me out of the cult was his hypocrisy.

  our work was in construction and it would often run us late for meetings.

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  Hey Bahi I call a 12 year old a little girl. That’s despicable. Anything could have happened to you. Believe me older girls than that have been kidnapped by strangers and terrible things happened. They are not fit to be around children some witnesses👿
  
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  This song resonates with me

  by moley in

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  2. experiences

  https://youtu.be/88sarufu-tc.

  i know this song is a about a guy coming out as gay, but it’s the way he is shunned and has to move out of his family home.

  hits hard.

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  Hey Moley I was an 80s kid who had issues with her family and this song certainly resonates with me, too.

  So very sad.

  NB “Moley” is the nickname I give to my son ;)
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  I am Santa rockin' out...

  by punkofnice in

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  2. friends

  you may wonder what my stance on christmas is now that i'm not a jobo.. well, i am santa.

  yes, i know, hard to believe....and you thought i didn't exist.. here is the proof......... https://www.youtube.com › watch.

  i'm miming for this polish singer beti gie (beata).

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  Fantastic. Everyone’s favourite song ✌🏽😻Santa is being very mysterious!!
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  The day G. presented a talk about the tricks of Rutherford

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today i rememberd the evening i presented a talk at the kh school from the proclamers book.

  it was about the conflicts of rutherford.

  i decided to speak the truth about the ugly tricks of this president.

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  Hey G I read the proclaimers section on Rutherford. Oh wow no wonder they changed it!!! Doesn’t look good at all.

  NB it can be found on Faithleaks.com and Good reads
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  The day G. presented a talk about the tricks of Rutherford

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today i rememberd the evening i presented a talk at the kh school from the proclamers book.

  it was about the conflicts of rutherford.

  i decided to speak the truth about the ugly tricks of this president.

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  Diogenesister

  Gorby I'm going to check out the proclaimed book on JWLeaks my friend. Bravo!
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  The day G. presented a talk about the tricks of Rutherford

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today i rememberd the evening i presented a talk at the kh school from the proclamers book.

  it was about the conflicts of rutherford.

  i decided to speak the truth about the ugly tricks of this president.

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  Diogenesister

  Ding....I see what you did there ! 😉👍
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  How old is old?

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  having a conversation with a pimi elder and i asked him how he deals with the fact that he never expected to get old.

  i get the feeling that some dubs still have the original generation explanation hard-wired, even though they claim to accept the new version.

  so my question is, how old do you have to be to be considered old?

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  it is a puzzle why the Bible should say 70 or 80 years for the human lifespan. Perhaps the compilers of the Psalms were looking at the optimistic age for death in the text they had-- and it reminded them of Moses long life-- so they attributed Psalm 90 to him? Otherwise they must have just made up the ages to sound impressive. However the Bible's claims in Psalm 90 regarding human longevity, is not backed up by the unremarkable archaeological finds of ancient Canaan.

  I think the average and median ages would be skewed by high infant mortality rates, and women dying in childbirth. If you take war, famine and uncommon situations like the plague of 1400’s out of the statistics the ages were probably pretty similar to today.I’ve heard that the ages of hunter gatherers were pretty high. Remember our two biggest killers - heart disease, diabetes and many types cancer predicated on diet and smoke etc would have been virtually unknown. I know cancer existed ( dinosaurs had cancer) and I expect it’s bred into us in terms of mutation driving evolution. But many types of cancer are related to modern lifestyles.

  We started getting sick when we became sedentary farmers, living in close proximity with each other and, most importantly, our animals.

  If you think about some of the worst recent epidemics they began as cross species diseases(there’s a word for it, slips my mind but It probably begins with Xeno or zoo )

  We are healthier taking lots and lots of physical exercise (running!)and not eating too much. I have a belief one veggie meal a day and meat maximum once a week keeps you healthy. Green leafy veg, whole food etc
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  How old is old?

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  having a conversation with a pimi elder and i asked him how he deals with the fact that he never expected to get old.

  i get the feeling that some dubs still have the original generation explanation hard-wired, even though they claim to accept the new version.

  so my question is, how old do you have to be to be considered old?

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  Scruff Im 30 and feel old!

  Im also condidered an old father medically speaking.

  Not quite. I think the age for a geriatric mother (Yes, that is the term or at least was) is 35. I don't think there is any such *medical* concept for a father but I do know the average age for parenthood is getting older every year. The area I live in the average parent is mid thirties for first child.
  

  
  
  
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  Grace Gough ( RIP ) left the JW cult in her 70s and went on to help 1000s to escape the cult

  by Not_Culty in

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  2. scandals

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj7ilnoxvu4.

  she helped me.

  sent me my first copy of crisis of conscience (free) grace has been featured on many talk shows, including sally jesse raphael, raising awareness of support for cult abuse survivors.

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  She definitely lives on in her granddaughter ~ they are so alike.

  Northern seal Have you tried a DM to mouthy granddaughter about the tapes? They would be a fascinating historical record for an exjw historian.
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  Christmas Trees.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  we are all very familiar with the fact that jws do not celebrate xmas.

  we probably used the same speech as we had been told from the platform that since xmas had its roots in paganism everything associated with it was a big no-no.

  xmas trees, definitely a no-no!

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  Very interesting Lost in the Fog I tend to think that practical things emerged in early man before ceremonial etc and it was likely the health benefits of pine were was the real reason the people brought them into the house in the winter. They were obsessed with ‘miasma’ and bad air so if people had coughs colds and illness they burnt pine needles to purify the air. It’s also handy to have a ready supply of fire wood INSIDE the house in case of heavy snowfall, storms etc or illness.