Posts by Diogenesister

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This Discussion Board

by minimus in

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friends

when you look back the last 20 years , what a transformation!

back then witnesses were putting out poetry and most were singing the praises of the organization.

slowly and gradually, negative thoughts were allowed to be expressed about doctrines, elders and congregation life.

You know, I definitely had questions when I first came here. I was starting to doubt. But I still had faith Watchtower was essentially good and the only real hope for mankind. Then I heard about the ARC on here......

What kept me coming back??? The humour! You lot were so damn funny!

I’d never met such funny JWs before and I knew there was something different about the people on here....I felt enormous kinship such as I’d never really felt before.

edit Terry did you draw that? If so I really like it. I’m really into woodcut prints and it kind of reminds me of those.

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Daily text 15.4.21 Unbelievable hypocrisy. Don't be the master of another's faith

by Diogenesister in

youtuber "king of fader's" caught this unbelievable piece of cant from watchtower in thursday's life and ministry 'daily text'.. (based on 2 corinthians 1:24 " not that we lord it over your faith").

"jehovah has not given us authority to make personal decisions for others.

someone who makes needless rules is not protecting his brothers safety - he is trying to become the master of his brothers faith.

Diogenesister

Yes, but that is just the sort of ammunition I used to use to defend myself when I was not doing everything "the society's way"

Its a valuable quote.

Good point BB. King of Faders came up with something else recently that I really wish I’d thought of. He said Watchtower claims the early JWs and Bible students saw things wrong with Christendom's churches and because they were righteous people they left them, because they saw these faults must mean it was “false worship”.

Yet when he points out the faults with Watchtower his JWs don’t deny it, but say they must “wait on Jehovah” to fix it.🤔🤔

So why didn’t the Bible students just “wait on Jehovah” to fix Christendom's faults?? What’s good for the goose etc etc 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼👍🏻

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The power of comedy

by LoveUniHateExams in

we live in strange times, in the middle of a culture war where saying certain opinions have consequences.

<--- so much for free speech.. thank goodness for satire.. https://babylonbee.com/news/nike-factory-graciously-offers-to-house-unaccompanied-migrant-children.

Diogenesister

LUHE that’s going on my boys wall...pronto!!

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Another bad faith video

by DATA-DOG in

just sharing this for all the people who hated me saying it.

funny how truth finally comes out if those of us who care enough to become lightning rods don’t let up.

it’s taken a year, but the left wing ( not the same as a traditional liberal ) nut-job bs is becoming quite evident, and this will continue across multiple subjects as time passes.

Diogenesister

PP There were tons of idiots that kept berating all my workers because we kept on working all last year and none of my workers got the vaccine. We are all plumbers working out in the sun and wind and we were in the middle of hospitals, senior hospitals, unclogging showers and toilets.

Well anyone who doesn’t think that plumbers are essential workers is an idiot.

Maybe next time they (probably don’t)🙄 wash their hands after using the loo they’d like to think about what it would be like if nurses, doctors, nursing home chefs etc weren’t able to to do the same...how fast disease would spread if we couldn’t access water for the scores of reasons we do. Doesn’t bare thinking about.

We may disagree about the threat COVID poses but I for one thank you very much for the essential service you provided at risk to yourself (and as a 53 year old, non-obese woman (with arthritis) I can tell you I’ve never been so ill in my life as I was with COVID*. Having said that I do appreciate for those in their 40s, 30s, 20s etc the risk is negligible & my 15 yr old kids basically didn’t even notice they had it).

*and before anyone thinks I’m just a wimp I’ve given birth naturally, without any pain relief to a breech baby and twins (not at the same time, mind🤣). In fact I’ve got a bit of a reputation as a hard bas***d 🤣My friends used to say I’ll be one of these old ladies who’ll be walking around on a broken hip for weeks when I’m old!

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JW's coming on to this site to preach.

by Overrated in

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friends

webmaster for removing jw's that come on here to preach their crap.

i don't want to hear their fake stuff.

i come here to recover from their damage and to help others.

Diogenesister

I enjoy engaging with JWs if they are genuinely willing to engage. Unfortunately many of them are “hit and run”posters, as Ding said.

However, you never know who is watching and as Blues Bro and JW facts mentioned, responding to them is a great way of showing how easy it is to dismantle their positions with logic & reason. Many people have woken up over the years having read threads on here - even if they are only lurking.

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Daily text 15.4.21 Unbelievable hypocrisy. Don't be the master of another's faith

by Diogenesister in

youtuber "king of fader's" caught this unbelievable piece of cant from watchtower in thursday's life and ministry 'daily text'.. (based on 2 corinthians 1:24 " not that we lord it over your faith").

"jehovah has not given us authority to make personal decisions for others.

someone who makes needless rules is not protecting his brothers safety - he is trying to become the master of his brothers faith.

Diogenesister

Hybridous Are they really this daft?

Or are they mocking JWs to their very faces, as part of the scam?

Things like this text really do make me wonder....

Or, perhaps we have a PIMO writer on the Daily Text team. Given the number of leaks, it truly wouldn't surprise me!

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Daily text 15.4.21 Unbelievable hypocrisy. Don't be the master of another's faith

by Diogenesister in

youtuber "king of fader's" caught this unbelievable piece of cant from watchtower in thursday's life and ministry 'daily text'.. (based on 2 corinthians 1:24 " not that we lord it over your faith").

"jehovah has not given us authority to make personal decisions for others.

someone who makes needless rules is not protecting his brothers safety - he is trying to become the master of his brothers faith.

Diogenesister

Youtuber "King of Fader's" caught this unbelievable piece of cant from Watchtower in Thursday's Life and Ministry 'Daily Text'.

(Based on 2 Corinthians 1:24 " Not that we Lord it over your faith")

"Jehovah has not given us authority to make personal decisions for others. Someone who makes needless rules is not protecting his brothers safety - he is trying to become the master of his brothers faith. Satan the Devil will not stop trying to persecute Jehovah’s faithful servants."

Just laughable 🤣😂

https://youtu.be/Dkct2RZusX8

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Derek Chauvin - The Right to a Fair Trial

by Simon in

anyone following the derek chauvin trial?.

if you are actually following it, not just listening to the media, you will likely realize that there is a huge gap between what is going on in court and what is being reported in the media.. if the trial was fair, i think he should be acquitted.

there is plenty of reasonable doubt about the cause of death (his dealer doesn't want to testify because he could be guilty of 3rd degree murder for selling him a fatal amount of fentanyl) and even doubt over whether the officer even had his knee on the guys neck or did anything counter to what they were meant to do as per policy.. but is it fair?

Diogenesister

police officer friend tells me that driving overly-cautiously is a good sign the driver is intoxicated. Most officers, he says, would stop the driver to check. It's also a sign that a wellness check is needed. This sounds reasonable to me.

Yes I knew a cop retired guy that trained met officers in advanced driving skills etc long time officer said absolutely over cautious driving is a dead giveaway...but he means really over cautious, like doing 55 on a motorway etc.

It Depends where you’re driving, though, on a motorway or dual carriageway any competent driver should be doing exactly on the speed limit to drive safely but in a residential area driving cautiously at 20 or 30 mph depending is the decent thing to do. It’s actually illegal in London now in many places to drive over 20.

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What police have to deal with

by LoveUniHateExams in

so, the actions of cops have come under scrutiny in recent days, what with the trial of derek chauvin and the death of daunte wright.

i certainly hope justice is served in both those cases.. what is easy for people to forget, is just what police officers have to deal with on a regular basis, during their interactions with citizens.. here's a video breaking down one such interaction.. a car owner was driving his car but the tags weren't legally displayed.

cops wanted him to pull over but the driver continued driving for a mile and a half with a police car following with sirens and lights.

Diogenesister

It’s actually a thing. It’s called “Death by cop”. It’s suicide*.

Frustrated, confused and depressed people, not to mention mentally ill. Is it time we brought in another type of official to deal with these cases? Like a cop immediately rings in the “mental health crew” ( provided they don’t drive off I suppose) and gets on with other business once they arrive? I mean in the UK the idea that a person on a traffic violation should be countered by an officer using firearms would be beyond absurd, but then I expect that drags us into that other long standing ding dong on here...gun laws.

*having said that there are many who would say it’s pretty selfish to drag others into (taking blame for) your suicide, assuming suicidal people could be said to be rational enough to be deemed “selfish”.

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Does the practice of refusing service to churches violate federal discrimination laws?

by dropoffyourkeylee in

concerning recent threads about providing building repairs or other services for a church, i am wondering about how the wt stand would hold up under legal scrutiny.. example; a jw is self employed in the hvac business.

a church calls him to provide routine service for their heating and cooling system.

suppose it is in area which is predominately of a certain race or ethnicity.

Diogenesister

Well if they were smart, of course, they'd simply say they were already booked up.

If they admitted they wouldn't carry out the repair because it's in a mosque I'm sure you could be sued for religious discrimination and actually I happen to agree with that. You're fixing radiators, not getting married there...why in the hell should you have the right to refuse based on the faith of the people who use said radiator/building??!