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  DPA Blood ASAP

  by manicmama in

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  i am in need of the current copy of the newest dpa blood card as some of the jw's in my mothers congregation are asking about if she signed the latest copy after she passed today.

  i am curious as to why they are asking about this specifically and not offering condolences on the loss of my mother.

  there has been some shady interactions leading to my mother requesting me to talk to certain elders to request that certain people not interact with her further.

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  I'm just speechless

  I offer you my sincerest condolences and please see Atlantis' post above*.

  *Petra and Atlantis in my view are "a brother born for time of distress" indeed!
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  Where is Kenneth Cook?

  by Mary2 in

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  video from new publication.

  https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/pub-lffv_542_video.

  now only 7 members of fds.

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  I bet someone will be for the high jump when they twig it, nonetheless. Even if it is an old photo/video, the publication is recent so they should have updated.
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  Watchtower caught lying about the real reason Beth Sarim was built

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  another incredible catch from a you tuber, this time jane doh, who caught watchtower fooling us again, this time over the reasons beth sarim was really built.. of course we knew rutherford lived in beth sarim during the winter (ostensibly because of his poorly chest🙄).

  however even we didn't guess he blatantly got the poor jws, or bible students as they were, to cough up from the proceeds of their book sales enough to buy him a "cali-fornication" mansion (for he & the girlfriend😜) with absolutely no pretence (at the time) it was for the "ancient worthies".that came later.... how did she know?

  because at the time it was built, in the 1920s, watchtower had no belief that anyone was to live on a "paradise earth" - they had not even formulated the concept of a paradise earth yet for the ancient worthies to live on and believed all jws were to live in heaven.

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  Another incredible catch from a You Tuber, this time Jane Doh, who caught Watchtower fooling us again, this time over the reasons Beth Sarim was really built.

  Of course we knew Rutherford lived in Beth Sarim during the winter (ostensibly because of his poorly chest🙄). However even we didn't guess he blatantly got the poor JWs, or Bible students as they were, to cough up from the proceeds of their book sales enough to buy him a "Cali-fornication" mansion (for he & the girlfriend😜) With absolutely no pretence (at the time) it was for the "Ancient worthies".That came later...

  How did she know? Because at the time it was built, in the 1920s, watchtower had no belief that anyone was to live on a "Paradise Earth" - they had not even formulated the concept of a Paradise Earth yet for the Ancient Worthies to live on and believed all JWs were to live in Heaven. In fact It wasn't until 1931 that they came up with a Paradise Earth at all! Jane Doe caught this little nugget and she further explains that it was in the 1939 book Salvation that they first used the excuse of the "Ancient Worthies" resurrection to paradise earth as the actual reason they built Beth Sarim. Completely contradicting earlier statements and forgetting they didn't have a paradise earth belief when they built it.

  This from Watchtower (paraphrased) : In 1939 the book "Salvation" stated "Concerning Beth Sarim or "house of princes" the purpose of building it was that there might be tangible proof to the world that there were people on earth at this time with faith that the Lord will raise the faithful men of old to rule as princes over the earth."

  https://youtu.be/kH9ebPQBKeo
  
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  This Discussion Board

  by minimus in

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  when you look back the last 20 years , what a transformation!

  back then witnesses were putting out poetry and most were singing the praises of the organization.

  slowly and gradually, negative thoughts were allowed to be expressed about doctrines, elders and congregation life.

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  Simon 🤣🤣🤣👌

  You know, I definitely had questions when I first came here. I was starting to doubt. But I still had faith Watchtower was essentially good and the only real hope for mankind. Then I heard about the ARC on here......

  What kept me coming back??? The humour! You lot were so damn funny!

  I’d never met such funny JWs before and I knew there was something different about the people on here....I felt enormous kinship such as I’d never really felt before.

  edit Terry did you draw that? If so I really like it. I’m really into woodcut prints and it kind of reminds me of those.
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  Daily text 15.4.21 Unbelievable hypocrisy. Don't be the master of another's faith

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  youtuber "king of fader's" caught this unbelievable piece of cant from watchtower in thursday's life and ministry 'daily text'.. (based on 2 corinthians 1:24 " not that we lord it over your faith").

  "jehovah has not given us authority to make personal decisions for others.

  someone who makes needless rules is not protecting his brothers safety - he is trying to become the master of his brothers faith.

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  Yes, but that is just the sort of ammunition I used to use to defend myself when I was not doing everything "the society's way"

  Its a valuable quote.

  Good point BB. King of Faders came up with something else recently that I really wish I’d thought of. He said Watchtower claims the early JWs and Bible students saw things wrong with Christendom's churches and because they were righteous people they left them, because they saw these faults must mean it was “false worship”.

  Yet when he points out the faults with Watchtower his JWs don’t deny it, but say they must “wait on Jehovah” to fix it.🤔🤔

  So why didn’t the Bible students just “wait on Jehovah” to fix Christendom's faults?? What’s good for the goose etc etc 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼👍🏻
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  The power of comedy

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. current

  we live in strange times, in the middle of a culture war where saying certain opinions have consequences.

  <--- so much for free speech.. thank goodness for satire.. https://babylonbee.com/news/nike-factory-graciously-offers-to-house-unaccompanied-migrant-children.

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  LUHE that’s going on my boys wall...pronto!!
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  Another bad faith video

  by DATA-DOG in

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  2. current

  just sharing this for all the people who hated me saying it.

  funny how truth finally comes out if those of us who care enough to become lightning rods don’t let up.

  it’s taken a year, but the left wing ( not the same as a traditional liberal ) nut-job bs is becoming quite evident, and this will continue across multiple subjects as time passes.

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  PP There were tons of idiots that kept berating all my workers because we kept on working all last year and none of my workers got the vaccine. We are all plumbers working out in the sun and wind and we were in the middle of hospitals, senior hospitals, unclogging showers and toilets.

  Well anyone who doesn’t think that plumbers are essential workers is an idiot.

  Maybe next time they (probably don’t)🙄 wash their hands after using the loo they’d like to think about what it would be like if nurses, doctors, nursing home chefs etc weren’t able to to do the same...how fast disease would spread if we couldn’t access water for the scores of reasons we do. Doesn’t bare thinking about.

  We may disagree about the threat COVID poses but I for one thank you very much for the essential service you provided at risk to yourself (and as a 53 year old, non-obese woman (with arthritis) I can tell you I’ve never been so ill in my life as I was with COVID*. Having said that I do appreciate for those in their 40s, 30s, 20s etc the risk is negligible & my 15 yr old kids basically didn’t even notice they had it).

  *and before anyone thinks I’m just a wimp I’ve given birth naturally, without any pain relief to a breech baby and twins (not at the same time, mind🤣). In fact I’ve got a bit of a reputation as a hard bas***d 🤣My friends used to say I’ll be one of these old ladies who’ll be walking around on a broken hip for weeks when I’m old!
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  JW's coming on to this site to preach.

  by Overrated in

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  webmaster for removing jw's that come on here to preach their crap.

  i don't want to hear their fake stuff.

  i come here to recover from their damage and to help others.

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  Diogenesister

  I enjoy engaging with JWs if they are genuinely willing to engage. Unfortunately many of them are “hit and run”posters, as Ding said.

  However, you never know who is watching and as Blues Bro and JW facts mentioned, responding to them is a great way of showing how easy it is to dismantle their positions with logic & reason. Many people have woken up over the years having read threads on here - even if they are only lurking.
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  Daily text 15.4.21 Unbelievable hypocrisy. Don't be the master of another's faith

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  youtuber "king of fader's" caught this unbelievable piece of cant from watchtower in thursday's life and ministry 'daily text'.. (based on 2 corinthians 1:24 " not that we lord it over your faith").

  "jehovah has not given us authority to make personal decisions for others.

  someone who makes needless rules is not protecting his brothers safety - he is trying to become the master of his brothers faith.

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  Hybridous Are they really this daft?

  
  

  Or are they mocking JWs to their very faces, as part of the scam?

  Things like this text really do make me wonder....

  Or, perhaps we have a PIMO writer on the Daily Text team. Given the number of leaks, it truly wouldn't surprise me!
  
  
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  Daily text 15.4.21 Unbelievable hypocrisy. Don't be the master of another's faith

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  youtuber "king of fader's" caught this unbelievable piece of cant from watchtower in thursday's life and ministry 'daily text'.. (based on 2 corinthians 1:24 " not that we lord it over your faith").

  "jehovah has not given us authority to make personal decisions for others.

  someone who makes needless rules is not protecting his brothers safety - he is trying to become the master of his brothers faith.

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  Diogenesister

  Youtuber "King of Fader's" caught this unbelievable piece of cant from Watchtower in Thursday's Life and Ministry 'Daily Text'.

  (Based on 2 Corinthians 1:24 " Not that we Lord it over your faith")

  "Jehovah has not given us authority to make personal decisions for others. Someone who makes needless rules is not protecting his brothers safety - he is trying to become the master of his brothers faith. Satan the Devil will not stop trying to persecute Jehovah’s faithful servants."

  Just laughable 🤣😂
  
  

  https://youtu.be/Dkct2RZusX8