i have 8 watchtower library cd's from 1997 to 2009 and barbara anderson's "secrets of paedophilia" cd which i no longer require.
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if anyone wants them in the uk please let me know and i will send them for free rather than dump them..
I’m interested and in the UK. I think “Avoid” will try and ensure it’s not edited but they’ve had problems being hounded by watchtower in the past so I think we all need to preserve as many hard copies as possible.
Can I send you my address?. You can pay pal me for for postage costs.
some of my jw family that is waking up posed that question to my jw family that is still hanging on to jw belief.. the stepbrother that posed that question told me;.
"in all these years of being a jw, i actually never gave it much thought as to why jehovah had to kill millions of innocent animals that had nothing to do with mankind becoming evil.".
i keep picturing in my mind, all the baby puppies and kitties that were destroyed by jehovah.
Great evidence indicates that animals have been suffering for millions of years - millions of years before man appeared on earth. So, JWs can't say that animal suffering started due to man's rebellion in the Garden of Eden.
Yes they've found fossils of dinosaurs with cancer.
So sorry about your Racoons. They have the most gorgeous little hands. I'd love to meet one, we don't have them here.
some of my jw family that is waking up posed that question to my jw family that is still hanging on to jw belief.. the stepbrother that posed that question told me;.
"in all these years of being a jw, i actually never gave it much thought as to why jehovah had to kill millions of innocent animals that had nothing to do with mankind becoming evil.".
i keep picturing in my mind, all the baby puppies and kitties that were destroyed by jehovah.
Love that picture P.Pete :))
They just dismiss animals as lesser lifeforms that don't really matter. The most egregious passage in the Bible is the one in Genesis that says man should have Dominion over the animals, birds and fishes. It's allowed for such harm.
But if the definition of a "person" is the capacity to suffer, practically all animals - and certainly vertebrates , no wait what about octopi? Nevermind make that all animals, are "persons".
JWs aren't much different from many humans in that sense. As a veggie I think It's the one true "ISM" there really is, species-ism.
here is an interesting discussion about how christianity probably began.
hierarchical political interest may have been involved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=civ8gscbo_g.
Both Early Christianity and Early Rabbinic Judaism were far less orthodox and less theologically homogeneous than they are today.
Yup. If only those that fight over religion would care to investigate they would find out they came from many belief systems, not one.
after my 4 and 6 year old sisters and i (5) were molested and covered up by elders, at 15 i'm disassociated for smoking.
then years later after attending a passover with family members, i'm not suddenly disassociated anymore and attempted befriending begins.
wow.
Vienne you are a judgemental ass. It's not particularly wrong for someone who left at 15.
Plenty of kids sit in that hall and words just go in one ear and out the other. They often barely remember a thing about doctrine.
here are some questions to ask witnesses.
how would you alter or improve or add to them?.
transparency questions.
What if these same Non-JWs die a few years before Armageddon...might they get a resurrection?
Do you think its fair that God would eternally destroy people simply based on the timing of their death?
@Nitty Gritty Of course not...
What if this scenario was happening during Armageddon? A building had collapsed on someone you were giving comfort to, say?As you correctly pointed out @Nitty Gritty, this is one of the major flaws in Watchtower theology. Had this scenario played out the day before Armageddon Witnesses would be able to answer that yes they may be resurrected as you have above.
Do you believe Jehovah will destroy billions of people at Armageddon?
Possibly, since the Bible speaks of only a minority being on the road to life.
Again, good answer @Nitty Gritty. This is a scripture many other Christians love to quote from the Bible so It’s rather hypocritical for other Christians to condemn JWs for claiming many will die at Armageddon.
this and several other articles are here: https://bitterwinter.org/excommunication-looking-for-a-balance-of-interests-between-opposite-freedoms/.
I think we're over rating the ethics of journalists.
Yes I worded that poorly.
What I mean to say is, even my rudimentary undergraduate studies permit me to visualise what a legal & philosophical challenge to the Ghent judgement would look like. Something you've previously pointed out absolutely could be made. Instead this tends to repeat the standard JW formula.
the pandemic has made the situation worse for single young jw girls.. i'm hearing tons of sad stories of single jw girls who are going, or have gone into deep depression.
with many having thoughts of committing suicide and hoping for a better life in the new order.. the pandemic has made it almost impossible for young jw girls to find a suitable marriage mate.
especially since the single jw boys-men want young, gorgeous, thin, virgins, who look like models and summit to the headship arrangement.
You boys sure they weren't simply gay?
Copy that Vidiot
You know, I'm going to say things must have gotten a lot worse over the last 10 or so years. I definitely saw some of the stuff others have mentioned, but I also knew some really nice JW guy's who ended up marrying in their twenties and thirties to girls of similar age. I know typically kids marry late teens early twenties, but there are some nice ones who marry later.
My best JW friend is a real career girl who has a MSc. She married a really nice guy (who rides a bike, too ;) ) and they were both in their 30s when they married. She is very pretty & slim, tho', too!
Pete......🤣😂 PIMP👏👏
this and several other articles are here: https://bitterwinter.org/excommunication-looking-for-a-balance-of-interests-between-opposite-freedoms/.
I only had to get as far as the insinuation that JWs are baptised as fully informed adults, because they don't practice ",infant baptism", to know he's a Jehovah's witness.
No journalist would be so sly as to bring up that half truth as an excuse for shunning. Since a rudimentary investigation into the cult would demonstrate young children routinely get baptised and in fact the GB encourage it.
i am in need of the current copy of the newest dpa blood card as some of the jw's in my mothers congregation are asking about if she signed the latest copy after she passed today.
i am curious as to why they are asking about this specifically and not offering condolences on the loss of my mother.
there has been some shady interactions leading to my mother requesting me to talk to certain elders to request that certain people not interact with her further.
I'm just speechless
I offer you my sincerest condolences and please see Atlantis' post above*.
*Petra and Atlantis in my view are "a brother born for time of distress" indeed!
