Posts by Diogenesister

Sometimes it's a good idea to define a cult then compare these behaviours with, say, Scientology. So, for example, Scientology controls what info members are allowed to access. Then when witnesses go away and think about it, over time they realise their own religion lines up with these behaviours too.

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East Pennines A$$emb£y Hall

by punkofnice in

so, my spies tell me that the east pennines a$$emb£y hall is being sold and all proceeds going to jobo hq.

there's a surprise.....not!.

i understand there are other properties too.

Diogenesister

remember back in the early 1970's (?) we all pledged to give so much per month to build this place. Cost a fortune but at least it looked good and won quite a few architectural awards for its design. Maybe they will return my donations plus interest.... or not.

It still pulls in a few bob each

St. George Is that ridiculous income versus spend disparity because they ship all their profits off to Watchtower HQ in Warwick? Do I understand correctly? If a charity was that much in the red, year on year, it would pretty soon fold. If it's being sold obviously the faithful are too poor, or too few, to donate enough to keep the 8 in Scotch....

Edit: just seen Earnest's post. Thank you Earnest.

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Where are the JWs on cross dressers?

by mickbobcat in

so if a man lets say is heterosexual, married and happy but likes to in the privacy of his own home wear women's cloths and his wife is ok with it.

i know a person could just shut their mouth and who would know but i am talking about jw who is very concerned about telling the truth to the dubbers.

my guess is it would not be a dfing matter but they would not be a ms or elder.

Diogenesister

There has been talks and articles, I believe, on this subject. Well on the subject of sex changes anyway. Basically they are to dress and behave as the sex they were given on their birth cert. And marry as such, too.

I've always wondered where that leaves the 1 in a 100 (apparently) kids born hermaphrodite (or intersex as they are now known). It's a bit absurd given half the world probably don't even have birth certs. Kind of shows what a western-centric religion this is.

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Afghanistan-Kabul falls to Taliban - U.S. Embassy staff evacuated by helicopter

by fulltimestudent in

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in a scene reminiscent of the fall of saigon, the usa embassy staff have been evacuated by helicopter.. for a third time in asia ( a fourth, if you count usa supported chiang kai shek's defeat in mainland china) usa supported forces have been defeated.

more than 1 trillion dollars wasted and a huge deathtoll (both sides) afghanistan is back to where it started,.

will the taliban behave differently this time ?

Diogenesister

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Afghanistan-Kabul falls to Taliban - U.S. Embassy staff evacuated by helicopter

by fulltimestudent in

jw
friends

in a scene reminiscent of the fall of saigon, the usa embassy staff have been evacuated by helicopter.. for a third time in asia ( a fourth, if you count usa supported chiang kai shek's defeat in mainland china) usa supported forces have been defeated.

more than 1 trillion dollars wasted and a huge deathtoll (both sides) afghanistan is back to where it started,.

will the taliban behave differently this time ?

Diogenesister

withdrawal is not defeat, but nice try. We could have held the land of goat herders indefinitely, but apparently Ole lunch bucket Joe had other ideas.

You can crow all you want about “defeats” but the Japanese showed how soft your people are and America pushed those same Japs back onto their island for good.

Just a guy Nobody is crowing. Far from it. Our forces and young men and women have died as well.

No one has ever "held" Afganistan and no one ever will.

It's all about the geography.

(NB you pushed the Japs back by nuking them. Now that is nothing to "crow" about).

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Question for parents with a believing co-parent

by Anony Mous in

my daughter is being raised in a pimi household and spends a significant time with me in a pomo household.

i don’t pressure her to believe, so she is thinking/pressured about becoming a jw from the other end, so she is reluctant about celebrating holidays and birthdays, but as any kid, she loves the gifts and attention, so she will “not celebrate but still do things”.. she is becoming a teenager however, and showing interest in not-so-jw-things.

her mother forbids star wars for violence and magic, but she wants to watch it, she wants a few horror video games, she wants to shoot things and go hunting but guns aren’t allowed, so i’ve compromised for archery.. what do parents of teenagers do?

Diogenesister

Oh, as with all kids*, choose your battles wisely.

Some disagreements just aren't worth the drama.

*With respect, at the present time, I would class your wife in the child category, too.😬

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Question for parents with a believing co-parent

by Anony Mous in

my daughter is being raised in a pimi household and spends a significant time with me in a pomo household.

i don’t pressure her to believe, so she is thinking/pressured about becoming a jw from the other end, so she is reluctant about celebrating holidays and birthdays, but as any kid, she loves the gifts and attention, so she will “not celebrate but still do things”.. she is becoming a teenager however, and showing interest in not-so-jw-things.

her mother forbids star wars for violence and magic, but she wants to watch it, she wants a few horror video games, she wants to shoot things and go hunting but guns aren’t allowed, so i’ve compromised for archery.. what do parents of teenagers do?

Diogenesister

I also don’t want her to feel bad that she’s feeling like she has to hide things from her other family.

I think this is important. We know they work on guilt....yet you also don't want to teach her to lie by omission or become secretive. Secrets are never healthy.

I think the only solution is training her how to think, rather than what to think.

For example, with regard to magic and violence in Star Wars. You could ask her whether she thinks an aeroplane would seem like magic to a bronze age shepherd? Therefore is it magic, or just future science?

(I think there is no real violence in Star Wars but anyway). You could ask her, if it's not the most terrible violence when she visualises Armageddon and all of those millions of children being killed for the crime of not being lucky enough to be born into a witness family?

Isn't Darth Vader using the Death Star to destroy worlds not the same thing as Jehovah destroying billions here?

If she says that Jehovah is just, you could ask the following: "Would a child being killed on Earth view Jehovah any differently than a child being killed on Alderaan would view Darth Vader? Would either be any less evil from the point of view of the murdered child?"