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  Jay the unfunny Comedian is calling everyone who disagrees with him racist now

  by Diogenesister in

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  just some screenshots of his twitter.

  these are absurd reaches.

  at this point it's just a risk communicating with him at all.. .

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  Just some screenshots of his Twitter. These are absurd reaches. At this point it's just a risk communicating with him at all.

  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  SBF It’s ironic that, just as Lloyd was digging a hole for himself, they could have thrown him a lifeline of sorts, as he will surely focus exclusively on false allegations, if they are false, in order to distract everyone from the things he admitted in his livestream.

  Which exactly what he did in his posts following Kim's first interview. Despite admitting nearly everything on his livestream, he posted she had made 'false accusations'.

  The 'false accusations' he was probably refering to were that we would be shocked if we knew how many activists he has driven off*. So he will divert, instead of focusing on what most of us are really concerned about, being:

  That a man who advocates for women and girls who are victims of rape and abuse can fail to see how they'd feel about their donations going to fuel the most exploitative criminal 'industry' in the world, to wit trafficked young girls in Thailand.

  That same man claims he cannot control his penis.

  His complete disregard of his wife's feelings and victim blaming.

  * We know that's true but at this stage I really wish some of these people would come forward, write a letter to the community and sign it. I was really taken with what Lee Elder said about the message being more important than the person.

  In years to come 2 hour commentaries on July's JW Broadcast is not what's going to open people's eyes. It will be the original research done by JWfacts, Ray Franz, Carl Olaf jonsson, Bonnie Ziemann, AJWRB, Heather/Gary Botting, Alan Feuerbacher, Jim Penton SMMcroberts, The Guardian and so many other researchers including many people on this very site over the years.

  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  mental health" seemed like an attempt to make out he was some kind of victim of something, even though everything that happened were his own life choices

  That's what made Kim snap. He was pretending to his patrons he was having some kind of mental breakdown*.... When really he was pissed because his wife had caught him cheating and given him an ultimatum.

  Someone who was having a genuine breakdown/depression/suicidal ideation was being further triggered by Evan's tweets, believing him to be suffering in the same way.

  When Kim tried to ask Lloyd to be careful what he posted in case it pushed this young man over the edge, Lloyd reacted in a self centred, petulant way. Unable to see for once it wasn't just about him. Ranting about his "rights" to tweet.

  *(He used the the catch all term "mental health". Like the controversial word 'woman' when something means everything, it ends up meaning nothing.)
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  Michael Jackson's mom on his disassociation

  by neat blue dog in

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  from an interview with ebony magazine:.

  in 1987, he left the jehovah's witnesses.

  there was strong opposition to his "thriller" video on the part of some witnesses.

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  SBF Because it leaves open the window of hope that some parents won’t take a hard line, and if they do take a hard line it calls into question whether their actions come down to Watchtower loyalty or lack of parental love.

  Yes, this causes so much pain and resentment.

  Strictly speaking she's not wrong though, at least back then. Parents that converted in the 70s will have done so on the understanding that you weren't required to shun family, so even without his wealth she may have maintained contact.

  There's so much inequality though: A wealthy child who financially supports their parents will be made an exception, due to the "essential family business" get out clause.

  But most of all, being a woman, there's no chance of her having to give up privileges due to contact with a child. It's conceivable a pioneer may be called to account for it - but in my experience if it's a long time pioneer who does the congs heavy lifting in terms of hours, that's unlikely.
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  The one person that might have made sense to sue was Kim Silvio, but he blew that up by making a video where he corroborated her claims.

  Remember she had a witness. Producer Bob' was there too and heard his admission (which is kinda creepy since he'd never met her before)
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  because someone needs to be the janitor.

  I don't know why, but you're giving me Hong Kong Fooey vibes☺️
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  incidentally, and off topic, I always thought this makes him look pretty humble and down to earth. I mean, he's off doing his own shopping, not just sending some skivvy to do it for him. Maybe not what you'd expect of a higher-up in any organization.

  I actually thought the same. And he was quite happy to give some friendly advice to the chap in the store on what's a good, reasonably priced whiskey* (Jameson...I approve).

  *Without preaching😆
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  NCC I have never read the book Moby Dick, but Lloyd is Captain Ahab to Watchtower's white whale.

  Holy moly great analogy!😆🙌🙌
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Just watched Cappy tans interview.

  1.Dijana is saying the screenshots are false.

  2. Kim talks about what's going on with Dijana and Lloyd. He's an emotionally abusive A-hole. Apparently she was in pieces. When Lloyd went online and said he needs a break because "things aren't working out for him" it was basically a tantrum because Dijana had said "no more. It's not ok for you to be visiting prostitutes all the time" so...... he went to Thailand to try and stop his sex worker addiction!!😳As a FU to Dijana. He said to Kim "she doesn't even know what a massage parlour is!".

  Dijana was left alone with the kids in bits.....all the time he's tweeting what a beautiful view etc and how he needs a mental health break .....it was all a lie. Oh....and her therapist thinks he's in an emotionally controlling, abusive relationship.
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  An upcoming Watchtower article saying if people Pioneer Jehovah will provide!

  by LongHairGal in

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  i saw the post on reddit and the thread got many responses..can anybody believe the religion is still saying this??

  it has to be as plain as day that so many jws are poor and struggling today because they never got a career or decent job years ago.. sadly, there are still witnesses who believe money will fall from heaven if they are in the full-time ministry.

  they expect some miracle to occur..but, we all know the truth: people in the congregation will be hit up for yet more money for another bunch of irresponsible people pursuing poverty.

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  It's really the Watchtower's own version of prosperity gospel

  The bigger donation to Watchtower = the greater the Blessings for you - Jah will provide!

  (Funny how Watchtower isn't willing to take a chance on earning a crust by making large charitable donations, too! 🤔)