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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Diogenesister

I'm not sure this was mentioned but Cappytan has made some effort to try and work out whether the claims by this Marko and some of it that was published by Kim and Mike had any basis in truth or not.
Well thank goodness someone has.
If this person is real it must be obvious Lloyd and Dijana know who it is. If he's not on social media, saying which cousin it is will have no effect on this person. None of you stated they know who he is. In fact Kim B, I believe, said she didn't know. Why not? How can you put this on social media if you're getting statements and you have NO idea who this person is (or at least a close friend does, so say if Joel knows him, for instance. At least someone in other words)
If anyone does know, why haven't they come forward to say "I know who it is. Their name, address, family connections (so how they are related which side of the family) - eg Marko is the husband of her mother's sisters eldest daughter, etc. Yet no one has done this. You've put screenshots of a conversation and you have no idea where they come from.
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"That's not the Jehovah I know..."
by under the radar in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
sometime in late 2014 or early 2015, a video of tony morris giving a talk about giving one's all was released by the borg.

he was belittling those who had one excuse or another for doing less than (he thought) they should.

he mocked those who relied on the thought that "jehovah knows my circumstances and he doesn't think any less of me" or some such.
Diogenesister

Was it the same speech he gave in (I think Italy?) Where he was talking about tight trousers? I think the person to ask about it is either Atlantis or Kim Brookes. They would know.
I recently cited that statement to a die-hard JW and was immediately challenged to prove it.
I also remember it! Funny sometimes I get the feeling exjws know more about their religion than current members.🤔
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Are They Letting the Organization Go?
by pistolpete in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
interesting idea by;.

fabian strategy warrior.

to many of you, this idea might seem absurd, but is it?.
Diogenesister

Pete No books to place in ministry , the rush to get all on line and use tablets and smartphones etc for ministry and meetings ,and the cherry on the cake the grand media centres to produce movies to broadcast on line .in fact bro Morris said at the AGM that route calls are a waste of time .
It makes me wonder if they've seen the success of Netflix etc and they're intending to turn themselves into a religious streaming service. Then it will be "we produced millions of simplified tracts in millions of languages....but now we can reach even more people .,..maybe who can't read at all" !!
Not at all realising that other religious groups have already made films that reached a billion people "The Life of Jesus"....and that for free! Something Watchtower will certainly not do🤔
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Diogenesister

You cause trouble for Simon if you steal copyrighted images. Not a good idea. The thought is spot on.
Not in this case. Commentary and satire constitutes fair use.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Diogenesister

I didn't watch but someone mentioned he was talking about how his most important "work" is continuing the fight on sexual abuse in the Watchtower.
I think that's an intentionally provocative statement, if made. It's obviously sticking two fingers up at the people who have voiced their concerns over someone with his attitude advocating for survivors, including survivors themselves.
I think people may have seen that as an insensitive insult and that's why they withdrew their support.
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Grace Gough ( RIP ) left the JW cult in her 70s and went on to help 1000s to escape the cult
by Not_Culty in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj7ilnoxvu4.

she helped me.

sent me my first copy of crisis of conscience (free) grace has been featured on many talk shows, including sally jesse raphael, raising awareness of support for cult abuse survivors.
Diogenesister

I really look forward to reading this. Thank you for telling us.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Diogenesister

I refused to watch it.
But I was disappointed to see Myth Vision podcast's Derek greasing up to him in the comments section.
It's only and always about the money for both of them. Always has been always will be...he has no choice but to soldier on.
As to reaching out to other Hack-tivists - it will only ever be if they're useful to him. All his 'friends' are people he needs for something....that's why they both had to "confess" their issues to some poor sod who barely knows them - that alone rang massive alarm bells for me.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Diogenesister

This is really something.
Remember JW fairy tale? Another guy who gave up because of LE. He made this video 6 years ago....now I'm really confused...https://youtu.be/_iO4M5q1Weg
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Did you ever have an “Olaf” moment.
by Slidin Fast in
1. watchtower
2. bible
did your class mates queue up to have sex with you?

it happened to olaf according to today’s wt.

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Diogenesister

MMM😂😂
I Bet he did! Poor sod.
more like OAF
Stan😂
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Escaped the cold
by peacefulpete in
1. jw
2. friends
went to arizona last to see what we could see and get away from winter.

here's some pics..
Diogenesister

These are gorgeous Pete!!! Did you visit somewhere with lots of Dino excavations?