Posts by Diogenesister

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Awakes says playing Chess is evil not for Witnesses!

by Witness 007 in

awake 73 3/23 p.12 "the spirit of compatition between players can lead to unpleasant circumstances...in some homes tensions linger longer then checkmate.

chess is a game of war a play substitute for the art of war...danger of stirring up compatiton and hostility to one another something the bible warns christians to avoid.

what effect does playing chess have on you is it wholesome?

Diogenesister

DoYKLee The '70s WT article was written during the 'Fischer' boom after the '72 Fischer-Spassky match was top news. Lots of people were introduced to chess at that time in the US.

Ahhh that explains it. People in the rest of the world not familiar with Gary Fischer would be like "where the heck did this come from?"😳. I'm too young to remember but I know he remained very famous even in the uk for years later.

Watchtower is so America-centric (if that's a word?) and of course they'll try to ban anything popular that will distract the sheep.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

So I doubt you can prove them fake and this claim doesn't do it as it relies on "lack of evidence" as evidence, which is weak, I think the only way they could have proven things fake would be if they'd used a screen resolution, font or anti-aliasing that wasn't definitively invented until some time later.

Simon what do you think about the time stamp? Someone said it was missing a zero on the 24 hour clock and that also days of the week weren't capitalised? Is that an issue please?

Vienne & SBF He is an excellent manipulator. He wants people talking about the allegations because he reckons he can disprove them and/or use then to set himself up as the victim.

Ignore these allegations and focus on the reason Mark, Javier, Kim and hundreds of his patrons have refused to work with him, which is his trip to Thailand and him being unfit to represent abuse survivors; the comments in his own livestream and public statements, not allegations that anyone else made.

Absolutely I fully agree with this. I'm just annoyed anything else was put out there before investigation because it plays right into his hands.

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What are your favorite charities? (USA)

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

of course not the watchtower!

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Diogenesister

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What are your favorite charities? (USA)

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

of course not the watchtower!

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Diogenesister

I support one called "Face Value"

It's based in Great Ormond Street Hospital for sick children and they do research into facial deformities in kids. The surgeon Mr. Dunnaway goes all around the developing world operating on kids who can't afford it. It he didn't their lives would be hell because their superstitious cultures believe they have been cursed by the devil etc. In fact many don't make it to childhood even if well enough because they are killed at birth. He operated on my son at 18 months old & whose life was changed forever, for the better, because he had craniosynostosis.

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/child-health/research/developmental-biology-and-cancer/stem-cells-and-regenerative-medicine/craniofacial-group-4

The others are Pancreatic Cancer UK and Alzheimer's society.

I used to support Scouting/Guiding before they allowed male bodied people who identify as women to share bedrooms overnight and bathrooms with little girls....and sacked two long standing women guide leaders for speaking out.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6222859/amp/Guide-leader-says-sacked-telling-bosses-new-transgender-policies-pose-risk.html

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

I'm not sure this was mentioned but Cappytan has made some effort to try and work out whether the claims by this Marko and some of it that was published by Kim and Mike had any basis in truth or not.

Well thank goodness someone has.

If this person is real it must be obvious Lloyd and Dijana know who it is. If he's not on social media, saying which cousin it is will have no effect on this person. None of you stated they know who he is. In fact Kim B, I believe, said she didn't know. Why not? How can you put this on social media if you're getting statements and you have NO idea who this person is (or at least a close friend does, so say if Joel knows him, for instance. At least someone in other words)

If anyone does know, why haven't they come forward to say "I know who it is. Their name, address, family connections (so how they are related which side of the family) - eg Marko is the husband of her mother's sisters eldest daughter, etc. Yet no one has done this. You've put screenshots of a conversation and you have no idea where they come from.

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"That's not the Jehovah I know..."

by under the radar in

sometime in late 2014 or early 2015, a video of tony morris giving a talk about giving one's all was released by the borg.

he was belittling those who had one excuse or another for doing less than (he thought) they should.

he mocked those who relied on the thought that "jehovah knows my circumstances and he doesn't think any less of me" or some such.

Diogenesister

Was it the same speech he gave in (I think Italy?) Where he was talking about tight trousers? I think the person to ask about it is either Atlantis or Kim Brookes. They would know.

I recently cited that statement to a die-hard JW and was immediately challenged to prove it.

I also remember it! Funny sometimes I get the feeling exjws know more about their religion than current members.🤔

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Are They Letting the Organization Go?

by pistolpete in

interesting idea by;.

fabian strategy warrior.

to many of you, this idea might seem absurd, but is it?.

Diogenesister

Pete No books to place in ministry , the rush to get all on line and use tablets and smartphones etc for ministry and meetings ,and the cherry on the cake the grand media centres to produce movies to broadcast on line .in fact bro Morris said at the AGM that route calls are a waste of time .

It makes me wonder if they've seen the success of Netflix etc and they're intending to turn themselves into a religious streaming service. Then it will be "we produced millions of simplified tracts in millions of languages....but now we can reach even more people .,..maybe who can't read at all" !!

Not at all realising that other religious groups have already made films that reached a billion people "The Life of Jesus"....and that for free! Something Watchtower will certainly not do🤔

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

You cause trouble for Simon if you steal copyrighted images. Not a good idea. The thought is spot on.

Not in this case. Commentary and satire constitutes fair use.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

I didn't watch but someone mentioned he was talking about how his most important "work" is continuing the fight on sexual abuse in the Watchtower.

I think that's an intentionally provocative statement, if made. It's obviously sticking two fingers up at the people who have voiced their concerns over someone with his attitude advocating for survivors, including survivors themselves.

I think people may have seen that as an insensitive insult and that's why they withdrew their support.

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Grace Gough ( RIP ) left the JW cult in her 70s and went on to help 1000s to escape the cult

by Not_Culty in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj7ilnoxvu4.

she helped me.

sent me my first copy of crisis of conscience (free) grace has been featured on many talk shows, including sally jesse raphael, raising awareness of support for cult abuse survivors.

Diogenesister

I really look forward to reading this. Thank you for telling us.