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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Aude Sapere perhaps a more significant topic to be discussed was his inappropriate behavior with girls in the hall and girls on the phone.

  Or... There was Bethel Branch Manager present to act as an interpreter since Lloyd apparently does not speak Croatian very well.

  I remember being very surprised at the time that Lloyd didn't record his judicial meeting. He'd been making videos around the whole waking up process. Everyone was recording their judicial's, at the time, and posting them online. It was very bizarre to have this big lead up.....to nothing. I definitely think it was because he didn't want his sexual proclivities broadcast. The ego was still at a containable level at this point😂 Admitting to porn is one thing, admitting to regular adultery another.

  The Branch dude was probably there for translation purposes OR because elders in the local area had conflict of interest due to close ties with Dijana and her family? That could be a reason they needed an "out-of-towner" maybe?

  Kim One thing that really stood out in your interview with Andrew is that whilst you have always corrected anyone posting unfair or incorrect things about Lloyd, he stood by a watched the pile on taking place on you and never once intervened when someone attacked you for things you had not done.

  He also never fails to wave the fact 'Producer Bob' is a pseudonym. That she definitely wants to remain anonymous and he does it in such a way as to be an obviously veiled threat. As in: I'm being so 'gracious' as to NOT reveal her identity for now.

  Both of these behaviours really reveal to me what sort of person he is.
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  Who says the Pandemic didn't wake up a lot of people!

  by pistolpete in

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  there are actually tons of these experiences.

  i wanted to post this one because it involved all the family of born in jws.. post;.

  all my freakn dreams came true.

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  BiahiDisillusioned JW, perhaps your mom would listen to Bridget from AZ YouTube? Try anyway. She’s excellent

  I know she's really clever, knows her stuff and doesn't accept any BS but I find her videos difficult to listen to sometimes😂

  I'm so pathetic I find in person confrontation really difficult and uncomfortable listening.....even on the phone😂

  Bridget challenges the beliefs of JWs and most of them are so robotic, either they answer as they've been trained to or, most commonly, don't even know the doctrine of their own religion. They certainly don't know Watchtower history.

  But what I find most discomfiting is that many of them will intentionally mislead Bridget if asked a difficult question. But she always challenges them on that! It's really shocking how many witnesses will straight up lie.....knowingly break a commandment with absolutely no shame. It's difficult listening if you're an ex witness.

  Occasionally she gets one that's willing to engage genuinely and that doesn't intentionally mislead or lie. That becomes very interesting because she can almost hear the cogs turning. They will often deflect, as they're trained to do, but you know she's planted something there.
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  Who says the Pandemic didn't wake up a lot of people!

  by pistolpete in

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  there are actually tons of these experiences.

  i wanted to post this one because it involved all the family of born in jws.. post;.

  all my freakn dreams came true.

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  Just to be clear: this is not Pete's story. He posted it as an example of people finding freedom.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  He has also made some comments on here I believe about writing the forward for Lloyd's second book that were suspect. He claimed that Lloyd could be earning a lot more in the secular world but cared so much about the exJW cause he was essentially taking a pay cut.

  You've got to be kidding me! He actually wrote that? C'mon Paul.

  That '2nd book' was another dubious act from Lloyd and I'd be surprised if Paul doesn't know why.

  A dude called 'The Great Apostate' (Neil) wrote a book about 'How to leave Jehovah's Witnesses'. He was very public about doing so and that it would be a free book to help PiMOs. Just after he published it, lo and behold Lloyd started to do exactly the same thing except he charged for the book AND started advertising for people to add their stories in the back!!! £200 no less!!

  I've noticed he refers to himself as a journalist now. I think that's a bit of a stretch merely for writing blog posts, given he has no training in the field.

  I've actually always thought it would was Marc O'Donnell who had the real literary talent on JW survey.Lloyd's gift is definitely being front of camera, rather than as a writer.
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  Resistace to going back to meetings

  by truthseeker in

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  lot going on.

  i had a covid divorce last year over zoom.

  not pretty but i got a good deal.. anyway,.

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  It's strange because the megathread on Reddit has been 70 - 30 % reporting people happy to go back.

  I think most people are saying numbers are down. Some areas/KH don't even allow zoom hook ups any more. In person meetings are insisted upon which is incredibly uncaring about the elderly given high levels of Covid. How can they switch so fast from "we lovingly don't have meetings" to "you must attend meetings or you are not spiritual".
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  Rutherford and dinosaurs

  by jhine in

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  sorry if this has been discussed before but on quora someone asked if rutherford had said that dinosaurs had been taken to venus .

  i assume that the questioner had heard it somewhere and wanted to check it out.

  i've never come across this before is it true ?

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  I had no idea about this and I thought I pretty much knew most of the bonkers idea's Watchtower had over the years! Did it even occur to them there might not be an atmosphere even remotely similar to ours? (never mind the temperature) .....even dinosaurs need to breathe!!!

  😂😂😂😭
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Ai those were t'days....

  We cracked us own nuts back then...😜

  Even Lloyd Evans aka John Cedar's did
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Can we get some support on the Reddit thread about this since the girl that posted it has had hate messages saying how they would like to see her die and how they want her to die. Post is also not visible because of downvoting. Just make a comment and vote up.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/u4grb6/are_we_not_going_to_talk_about_the_on_the_edge/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
  

  NB The average UK wage is £26,000 p.a. So compare that with Lloyds documented income for context.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Wow Bonnie Zieman left a message under Andrew Gould's video. Didn't know he was a BBC journalist. I couldn't get the whole message in but it continues with " (he)will do whatever it takes to maintain his income stream. Don't let him scare or bully you, Andrew. He is someone struggling with many issues and needs serious help."

  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Says he is sure Jessica (he names her) will have memories from this period. Again brings up Ukraine and seeing hospitals being bombed, and says it’s not as bad as that. Says he drove to the Hungary-Ukraine border to pick up refugees.

  My god this is awful. Poor kid. But how is that the fault of the Twitterati?? Jessica isn't on Twitter.

  What this means is that her parents are fighting - or Lloyd is raging, crying or otherwise acting out of character in front of her.

  Those of us who've suffered with narcissistic, aggressive or otherwise damaging parents know exactly what that feels like.😢

  He is traumatising her whilst blaming his Twitter followers, Kim & others for his child's state of mind.

  A new Low Lloyd.