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  Help please.

  by lastmanstanding in

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  recently, in the past few months, and this only applies to in dubs who might have taken note, the watchtower study edition made a change.

  it mentioned the “warning work” where dubs are going to march around and proclaim everyone is going to die.. anyway, this article said it was now only a possibility, not a sure thing.. i can’t find it.

  did watchtology change it already?.

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  Blondie The WTS has always said that when the great tribulation starts, there will be no way any non-jws will escape the judgment of Armageddon, the door will be closed. Then jws would go door to door telling people their destruction is near. It is an old concept that has been tweaked over the years as to details and timing

  Which, if you think about it is not only full on bonkers but pretty unsafe. If your preaching work is now over......stay home!

  If the GT has started, people will be pretty frightened.

  If you then go knock on someone's door to tell them they're going to die and not only can they not do anything about it, but to actually gloat that YOU as a JW will be fine.......you're very likely to get someone willing to try that little theory out!🤕🤕😂
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Vintage Where is Cora's post, please?

  Edit: Don't worry I've found it. I agree Cora writes extremely well. Absolutely harrowing stuff. I don't know what to say..😥
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  Help please.

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  recently, in the past few months, and this only applies to in dubs who might have taken note, the watchtower study edition made a change.

  it mentioned the “warning work” where dubs are going to march around and proclaim everyone is going to die.. anyway, this article said it was now only a possibility, not a sure thing.. i can’t find it.

  did watchtology change it already?.

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  Wow I haven't heard of this, sorry lastmanstanding.

  Very interesting if they have changed it, though! Finally... a little humility creeping in maybe???🤔
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  BREAKING. European Court rules for Jehovah's Witnesses in long-awaited "extremism" case

  by Corney in

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  in 6-1 judgment, the ecthr found that the forced dissolution of jehovah’s witnesses religious organisations in russia, the banning of their religious literature and international website on charges of extremism, the revocation of the permit to distribute religious magazines, the criminal prosecution of individual jehovah’s witnesses, and the confiscation of their property unlawfully interfered with their human rights.

  the only dissenting judge is apparently mikhail lobov, who was nominated by the russian government.. .

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  I don't understand why Russia simply removes any tax breaks they get, remove their status as a religion and merely classifies them as a business (which they are).

  Then go all out in organising an official enquiry into their child abuse problem, like CARC. An inquiry Into the shunning of minors, the illegal pressure they put on members to refuse blood, & Watchtower orders not to vote. All on pain of shunning & DF/DA.

  All of these things are legit methods of bringing the organization terrible publicity, driving away converts & making Watchtower in Russia's life difficult & costly.

  They may possibly even force change on some of their behaviours if heavy financial penalties are at stake.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Twitter Lloyd Evans parody posted this. Is this real? If it is....it's painful. She must be hurting. I'd assumed because she hadn't defended him she was p***ed off with him. Not sure.......should we post these kind of messages? Because they're painful (I know I .....I have. I just wanted to know if it's real or not?)

  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  LMSA Because he doesn't so much as view himself as a victim as much as it has always seemed to be a competition to him and he is constantly on the lookout to "one-up" them.

  Makes sense being that they kicked him out and he's looking to get them back

  You're spot on. He's such a raging narc, I really believe he sees himself in some kind of battle of wills contest with Watchtower.

  His cerebral cortex might be telling him he is trying to debunk everything about this cult.

  But the underlying frail ego cannot help but want revenge for the complete sense of rejection he feels from his replacement "mother".
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Ok he's definitely aiming to drive her to such distraction with such patently absurd claims, that she reveals her qualifications. Therefore giving him ammunition to at least make her life unpleasant. I've no doubt whatever professional body Kim is registered with will have no truck with that maliciously minded fool (and if she is retired she may have let her registration lapse, since I can tell you from experience it's not cheap. You have to pay to maintain your place on a professional register, so if you don't intend to practice there's no point continuing to pay)

  I pointed out to him that Kim explains in Cappy's interview why her work on JW watch/with Lloyd was not in a professional capacity and could not be considered a contract such as the attorney/client relationship is.

  NCC What is certain is Kim's reply to Karlo Novosel's letter was far superior to the garbage he typed out. If any lawyer needs to be asked what type of credentials they posses it is Karlo's.

  Exactly! Only a moron would question her abilities.
  Plus what a rip roaring cheek that he takes advantage of FREE volunteer work from Kim, only to claim she did it for "prominence".
  

  Talk about projection😆

  Not to mention Kim gives us information that would not only normally be extremely costly, but also hard to find. Given it's not easy to find a lawyer/solicitor that understands how Watchtower works.
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  Kim please do not disclose any of your credentials he is obviously fishing in order to try and blackmail you and/or attempt to get you struck off/complain etc etc

  What I don't understand is in most countries if you make a criminal complaint it's up to the cops/public prosecutor to take the complaint further if they think a law has been broken and a conviction is likely. If it isn't and it's not even in the public interest to take it further (it costs the public purse money), it doesn't even get as far as a judge. I don't get it.

  Also that so called 'courtesy letter' was outright blackmail in my opinion. I'm sure in the UK it would be viewed as such.
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  If something is free to do with no barrier to it being initiated, then it can't be used as evidence of anything other than it was initiated. So it should neither strengthens or weakens the other case. Only a verdict would do that.

  I agree it's completely meaningless as evidence. I suppose I'm just assuming they may question it if he hadn't completed it as a formality?*

  TonusOH *Assuming it hadn't got to trial before he lodges civil, which I cannot imagine it would have. Either because of a massive backlog in cases, or because of juristrictional issues. Either of which could have been the real reason he actually bothered with something so pointless - purely PR stunt!
  
  
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  Kim Silvio As far as I am aware, JWBD doesn’t reside in England or Wales….if I’m right, that could be a problem 🤷‍♀️

  Ah yes. Different legal system. If I recall based more on the European Civil system? Very weird.
  

  ic. He said that regardless of the criminal case result he was filing civil suits.
  

  Kim Silvio This has confused me since he made that statement 🤷‍♀️

  👍Is it possible he logged the criminal complaint:

  1) because I'm assuming it's probably free to do so, being a criminal complaint?

  2)So that when & if he lodges a civil suit, he can document that he registered a criminal complaint as supporting evidence?

  (Just my theories, could be totally wrong)