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James Edward Padgett
by vienne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
padgett, a spiritualist and medium who thought jesus messaged him, opposed russell.

does anyone here have padgett's books?

i don't have time to wait on interlibrary loan.
Diogenesister

Oh wow...you gotta love this forum! Bumped so she sees! ❤️Smiles!!
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Diogenesister

Nicolaou Could we upload Lloyds livestream to the website, or do you think he would attempt to have it removed if there were no commentary around it?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Diogenesister

I’m not much of a writer but I’d certainly be willing to proofread if that’s any help.
Slim not true! I think you'd be perfect. Start a thread asking people what they think needs to go in, maybe. You could maybe do the AAWA.....or Jeff?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Diogenesister

However, two elderly JW men choose not to have any funeral ceremony. If their wives stayed JW, and the men woke up, (which is what I suspect) that would be the only solution. I realize that this talk of obituaries is off-topic.
That is so utterly awful, Vintage. I'm so sorry about these chaps. How awful not to have the eulogy they deserve because their wives are captives of an organization that will use their funeral to recruit more victims😡
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Diogenesister

Aude SAPERE I suggest adding an intro/background chapter with details found on JWN.
On JWN, JLE describes his ambition to create a cohesive community for all xJW's with him (at the time know as '(John)Cedars) as the lead. Then JLE completely botched the AAWA launch project with deception (ie: using an alias to form an actual, legal US corporation) and excessive control.
This is an excellent idea and pretty much an essential first chapter (I'd usually say it would be the intro but so many people skip them!)
I think it's important someone around at the time writes this part as it's extremely important to set the tone correctly.
Then JLE completely botched the AAWA launch project with deception (ie: using an alias to form an actual, legal US corporation) and excessive control.
This is quite instructional as to his level of young egotism and ambition. Not always a bad thing in moderation, when coupled with a lack of education and inability to accept constructive criticism it was always going to end in disaster, as was the case here.
Given the level of ability and the calibre of the folks willing support this endeavour, it's a real pity he wasted such promise.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Diogenesister

Nicolau we have some excellent "witness statement" videos/documents to upload.
Examples lloyds livestream (maybe a analysis if required for copyright reasons)
Katy Kittens statement
Kim Silvio's statement video with Johnathan
Kamaron Fader's video
A link to Jake's mini history video
A link to Andrew gold and Kim Silvio video
Excepts from Andrew Gold, again for copyright reasons
Video of the Crises of conscience scandal
Documents:
Kim's original statement
Mark O'Donnell's statement
Javier Ortiz statement
Screenshots relating to the AAWA scandal
Just for starters......anymore?
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Nicholas King at a gay bar
by neat blue dog in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
seriously, when will this guy come out of the jws, and out of the closet?.

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Diogenesister

🎤🧑‍🎤🎼🎶"I wanna take you to a gay bar, a gay bar"🎶
Nick Kings next cover version😜 .
This is why these young guys can go so long as upstanding dubs with no history of immorality/fornication/getting in trouble with girls etc There's virtually no way a presentable, intelligent, straight guy can make it to his 30s within the JWs without a whiff of pre marital fumbling around for goodness sakes!!
OK you can get the occasional super spiritual dude who trully loves God who in any other religion would have become a priest or a monk/brother in a monastery etc....but it's rare nowadays in the witnesses, especially as it's getting harder and harder to take the religion seriously.
when I saw some of his shows I would be very surprised if he was in Bethel but it seems he was
Are we sure he was? He wasn't a remote Bethelite ie recording/writing/arranging music and performances, was he? Maybe he lived in for short periods whilst doing that but not a "real" Bethelite, as in assigned any shitty, random job for fourth years etc?
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Investment departments in Bethel
by Mikejw in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
i was a bethelite in london for many years then got reassigned to the field and then went on brd from the start of chelmsford right upto covid.. during my years at the branch i was sometimes asked to be on a team who went to homes donated to the branch when some older one died.. this happenes an awful lot, everything is left to the branch in the will.

the unbelieving family is furious they didn’t get left anything and sometimes they tried to get their elderly relatives possessions and there was a legal battle .

but in the end a team of us would go and empty the property and another team would clean it up and put it on the market to sell it for the worldwide work.. all the possessions were sorted into trash or possibly valuable .
Diogenesister

In the UK you can contest a parents will if this kind of thing happens. If contents were not specifically willed then there's no way watchtower is getting it if the kids want it. Other relatives would have a harder time as I think it's kids the law is very specific about (as your heirs). I believe it's quite hard to write your kids completely out of your will.
How do I know? My own parents stole money my grandparents left me in their will. My step father was the executor and didn't tell me how much there was, or inform me at all.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Diogenesister

Guys exjw subreddit has gone full woketard. I commented "grommer" and got instantly banned for 7 days. Lmao
Which thread? Probably better to use logic.
Why does safeguarding for women and children go out the window when certain racial or gender identities are at issue.
Yet they never bring up the fact Muslim women cannot use mixed bathrooms or changing rooms. Suddenly then their "identity" doesn't matter and they can get to the back of the queue!!
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Diogenesister

and what remains of his “green handshakes”.
Yup! Remember quite a few donors probably paypal him or even direct donations into his bank account to avoid patreon taking a cut, if he knows them personally. (He met many people on his travels - probably staying with exjws on the way). Some well over top tier level amounts - couple of hundred dollars in many cases. God it's so culty!!!
Factor in he was never having to pay rent or a mortgage, he had his flat renovated free, too.