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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
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original reddit post (removed).
Diogenesister

Trying to have a relationship with a narcissist eventually damages the non-narcissist.
Hi I meant to write "one extreme OR the other" so in other words some JW kids grow up to be narcissists and some spend their lives centering others and develop no boundaries.
And yes I grew up with a narcissist then married one and I'm always second guessing myself as to whether I've developed narcissistic tendencies. I'm sure I have. These men were always in competition with their own kids and so if my kids show concern toward me I'm terrified I'm 'making it about me'. Since my father always did, as did my first husband.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Diogenesister

limboyfat, that’s an amazing video on narcissism. Sam Vaknin explains how all humans start out with narcissism, but most people work their way out of it as they mature. And he says that an adult narcissist only sees the people around him as useful instruments. It clears up so much. Also, he talks about the narcissist’s voracious appetite for praise.
Sort of off topic but there has to be a reason a child isn't able to adjust from the natural developmental narcissism a child has, to the empathy for and even centering of others whilst maintaining healthy boundaries, of an emotionally healthy adult.
Why is it JW kids so often have this problem. Often becoming one extreme of the other....perhaps Dijana developing the tendency to have no sense of self and preservation of such.
Some women can swing from one to the other, too, which can be confusing to their own family later on.
JW parents who prioritize the organization over their children, perhaps create an environment where kids are unable to out grow the Narcissism of young childhood??
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Magnum Actor died.
by Lost in the fog in
1. jw
2. friends
https://news.sky.com/story/magnum-pi-actor-roger-e-mosley-dies-after-sustaining-injuries-in-car-crash-12668467.
Diogenesister

I can't believe no one has posted about OLivia Newton-John (we used to call her Neutron Bomb but I thought that a little disrespectful!) She's a Dame, apparently , I had no idea she was a Brit....born in Cambridge! I have fond memories of doing our class V Class version of "Glee" on the playing fields at lunch time😊
Loved that musical💕
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Diogenesister

I can't find any reference to Lloyd Evans on either the state's documents or the website. Not saying it isn't there, just saying that if it is there, its buried deep enough that I didn't see it in half an hour of poking around.
As to the website etc it's possible they removed all references to him after the fall out of his publicly revealing the identities of JW apostates, in order to increase AAWA membership numbers.
Wasnt he John Cedars on the documents? (Edit: you're aware of this sorry)
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James Edward Padgett
by vienne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
padgett, a spiritualist and medium who thought jesus messaged him, opposed russell.

does anyone here have padgett's books?

i don't have time to wait on interlibrary loan.
Diogenesister

Oh wow...you gotta love this forum! Bumped so she sees! ❤️Smiles!!
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Diogenesister

Nicolaou Could we upload Lloyds livestream to the website, or do you think he would attempt to have it removed if there were no commentary around it?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
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2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Diogenesister

I’m not much of a writer but I’d certainly be willing to proofread if that’s any help.
Slim not true! I think you'd be perfect. Start a thread asking people what they think needs to go in, maybe. You could maybe do the AAWA.....or Jeff?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Diogenesister

However, two elderly JW men choose not to have any funeral ceremony. If their wives stayed JW, and the men woke up, (which is what I suspect) that would be the only solution. I realize that this talk of obituaries is off-topic.
That is so utterly awful, Vintage. I'm so sorry about these chaps. How awful not to have the eulogy they deserve because their wives are captives of an organization that will use their funeral to recruit more victims😡
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Diogenesister

Aude SAPERE I suggest adding an intro/background chapter with details found on JWN.
On JWN, JLE describes his ambition to create a cohesive community for all xJW's with him (at the time know as '(John)Cedars) as the lead. Then JLE completely botched the AAWA launch project with deception (ie: using an alias to form an actual, legal US corporation) and excessive control.
This is an excellent idea and pretty much an essential first chapter (I'd usually say it would be the intro but so many people skip them!)
I think it's important someone around at the time writes this part as it's extremely important to set the tone correctly.
Then JLE completely botched the AAWA launch project with deception (ie: using an alias to form an actual, legal US corporation) and excessive control.
This is quite instructional as to his level of young egotism and ambition. Not always a bad thing in moderation, when coupled with a lack of education and inability to accept constructive criticism it was always going to end in disaster, as was the case here.
Given the level of ability and the calibre of the folks willing support this endeavour, it's a real pity he wasted such promise.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Diogenesister

Nicolau we have some excellent "witness statement" videos/documents to upload.
Examples lloyds livestream (maybe a analysis if required for copyright reasons)
Katy Kittens statement
Kim Silvio's statement video with Johnathan
Kamaron Fader's video
A link to Jake's mini history video
A link to Andrew gold and Kim Silvio video
Excepts from Andrew Gold, again for copyright reasons
Video of the Crises of conscience scandal
Documents:
Kim's original statement
Mark O'Donnell's statement
Javier Ortiz statement
Screenshots relating to the AAWA scandal
Just for starters......anymore?