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  Have JW `s ever faced the topic of Jesus having inherited Adamic sin ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  according to the bible all humans male and female have inherited sin because of adam and eve`s disobedience to god .. god may have impregnated mary with a life force , however it was still sinful mary who gave birth to jesus after nine months in her body who is /was supposedly without sin ?.

  mary must have passed on some of her sinful state to jesus having been in her womb for the past nine months , surely.

  and there is nothing in the bible / scripture to say otherwise ?.

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  Pescatary One Where did Jesus get his y chromosome from? Not from Mary and not from Adam. JW hold that Adam could have produced perfect offspring inspite of Eve’s transgression. It is noteworthy that Jesus’s genealogy is through Mary. He is not a direct descendant of any male. Eve was affected by sin only after Adam sinned.Anyway, the perfect genes that JC got from God fixed the problem and JC didn’t inherit sin from Eve or Mary—or Adam.

  Fisherman you do realise that males inherit an X chromosome from their mothers? Not only that but half their genes are from their mothers, also mitochondrial DNA which is ancient.

  Watchtower removed that lunacy because it demonstrates an egg as merely an empty vessel with no genetic material to impart itself.

  As to Adam having perfect kids had he not eaten the fruit, they know Jehovah would have to create another woman (Jewish legend has it he'd already created one, Lilith, who refused to submit to Adam).
  
  
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  Watchtower looses Norwegian Appeal

  by Diogenesister in

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  watchtower has just lost its appeal in the norwegian courts over the withdrawal of the funding it receives from the government as an officially recognised religion.

  the initial decision will now stand due to what the court termed 'exclusionary practices' which includes the witnesses barbaric practice of shunning minors, even by family members in their own homes.

  the ministry of children and families have decided they are now no longer eligible for the state grant of 16 million norwegian kroner given to officially recognised religions.. the following is a statement has been issued, i have summarised if it isn't readable: .

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  Smid, based on God things to God. Rarely do the authorities act sua sponte on theses matters. Usually it is because someone complained who has beef against the JW religion.

  Fisher one You do understand this is about child abuse right? Presumably you accept the government has a right to step in to protect children??! They are not banning Watchtower merely not giving them official status and by extension a big fat cheque!!
  
  
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  Watchtower looses Norwegian Appeal

  by Diogenesister in

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  2. current

  watchtower has just lost its appeal in the norwegian courts over the withdrawal of the funding it receives from the government as an officially recognised religion.

  the initial decision will now stand due to what the court termed 'exclusionary practices' which includes the witnesses barbaric practice of shunning minors, even by family members in their own homes.

  the ministry of children and families have decided they are now no longer eligible for the state grant of 16 million norwegian kroner given to officially recognised religions.. the following is a statement has been issued, i have summarised if it isn't readable: .

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  Thank you New Boy for your original posts.

  This is the work of some amazing Norwegian activists (yes....they make change happen!) not least among them Jan Frode Nilsen
  

  Below is a video about the case earlier this year.
  

  https://youtu.be/JdULzJJBaxE
  

  
  
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  My prediction coming true

  by Foolednomore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  while back, not here on this net i don't remember.

  i predicted that watchtower would allow you to buy your way into the kingdumb.

  does anyone find this interesting?.

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  That video was utterly disgusting with that German GB helper. You can buy your way into being "Jehovah's friend" by donating regularly to Watchtower. Ugh😡
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  Follow to previous post,re:My niece

  by Captain Schmideo2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  a few weeks back, i posted this:https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6246845349625856/never-thought-would-see-this-my-family-circle.

  so, in latest developments:there was a court hearing, in which a continuance was granted for two weeks, as my bil has pleaded not guilty.

  which is, in my opinion, very bad legal advice from his lawyer.

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  she is going to the Homecoming dance at her school, with her beau.

  Wonderful! I'm so happy for her! It's such a wonderful age and absolutely tragic her parents are too brainwashed to share in that joy.

  There is no excuse for that level of violence. He's loosing control and he cannot abide that. Captain please drop her any info you can....I know you want to make sure you don't alienate her, though, you're being a wonderful uncle.
  
  
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  Watchtower looses Norwegian Appeal

  by Diogenesister in

  1. social
  2. current

  watchtower has just lost its appeal in the norwegian courts over the withdrawal of the funding it receives from the government as an officially recognised religion.

  the initial decision will now stand due to what the court termed 'exclusionary practices' which includes the witnesses barbaric practice of shunning minors, even by family members in their own homes.

  the ministry of children and families have decided they are now no longer eligible for the state grant of 16 million norwegian kroner given to officially recognised religions.. the following is a statement has been issued, i have summarised if it isn't readable: .

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  Watchtower has just lost its appeal in the Norwegian courts over the withdrawal of the funding it receives from the government as an officially recognised religion. The initial decision will now stand due to what the court termed 'exclusionary practices' which includes the witnesses barbaric practice of shunning minors, even by family members in their own homes. The Ministry of Children and Families have decided they are now no longer eligible for the State grant of 16 million Norwegian Kroner given to officially recognised religions.

  The following is a statement has been issued, I have summarised if it isn't readable:
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  2. scandals

  original reddit post (removed).

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  can't with his fucking hypocrisy.

  I can't with the fucking hypocrisy of Evans and the uninformed idiocy of Sturgeon AND Evans.

  The fact that 60% of "Trans women" currently residing in UK prisons ARE sex offenders seems to prove Sturgeon and Evans wrong.

  Predators will and do use any means to access & abuse women and children.

  The UK charity commission is currently investigating "Trans Kids" charity mermaids for sending out breast binders to little girls - it's subsequently been revealed one of their trustees, an academic named Breslow, is a pedophile. His fetish is castration of youths.🤬

  The fact these people seem to believe using the term 'trans' and all safeguarding for kids and women should suddenly be removed is deeply concerning.

  The same with the recently closed down kids Gender clinic The Tavistock. Telling children to keep secrets from their parents is the perfect environment for groomers to begin their work.
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  Would you still be angry with Lloyd Evans ?

  by BettyHumpter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if instead of thailand, he had gone to a place where its legal and (supposedly) has some sort of oversight to prevent exploitation?

  like nevada in the u.s or amsterdam in europe?

  would the being unfaithful part still be a deal breaker as far as supporting his channel?

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  Slim I agree JWs have had a disproportionate cultural impact, given their numbers.

  I put that down to a couple of things. It's an American, English speaking religion, which helps the spread of information. That info is ubiquitous and free of charge, with a very recognisable artistic presentation and engaging concepts story wise - Armageddon, paradise etc etc*

  Also witnesses themselves impart their culture to the wider world. Because of the way witness kids are raised - with an abundance of boredom - they learn the ability to entertain themselves. The few outlets they have, for example music (ie learning the piano), they attack with gusto & real appreciation. Witness kids are forced to be responsible and disciplined - thus there are a more than average number who excel in the arts, music, business and to a lesser degree sports etc

  *And preaching, of course. Most people have a neighbour or friend they've met through the work.
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  Washington State-Spokesman-Review article: The Silent Witnesses

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. child-abuse

  https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2022/oct/02/the-silent-witnesses-jehovahs-witnesses-covered-up/.

  the silent witnesses: jehovah’s witnesses covered up child sexual abuse in washington state for decades, lawsuit alleges.

  sun., oct. 2, 2022. by wilson criscioneinvestigatewest.

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  Diogenesister

  Terrible story... The reality is that back in the 70’s child abuse was just not taken seriously, as it is today.. since it always takes place in private it was often assumed that the kid was making it up.

  Blues I'm going to have to disagree with you there. I know you're a Brit so it's not an area thing. It was because responsible adult witnesses didn't report it as ordered by Watchtower service department.

  In the seventies I was molested. I told my parents. Quick as a flash a police detective was walking me through the area and I showed him how, where and what happened. I was examined by a police surgeon. He was caught. He was convicted. As in the reported case he'd done it to other kids.

  Something also happened to my Jehovah's witness neighbour. Her parents DIDNT report it to the police.😡 (Which I wasn't aware of until fairly recently).Yes, kids were definitely less likely to be believed back then and we kids were far less watched. But often the difference between a child that was protected in the end and one that wasn't, was having an ADULT who would REPORT and Watchtower wasn't going to report no matter how many kids came forward. Some parents told them to stick it, though, thank goodness.
  
  
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  Are Venus and Serena Williams baptized?

  by inkling in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has anyone heard actual evidence that they are or are not?.

  (besides the absurdity of thier actions that the local elders would have to let slide).

  do they even claim to be witneses anymore?.

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  Anyone know for sure one way or another?

  Breezy I've only ever heard people claim that no, they are not. But if Serena were baptised, she surely would have been disfellowshipped because A) She had her baby out of wedlock, and B) She subsequently married a non believer.