Posts by Diogenesister

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Lot disappears into the mountains for awhile then comes back with two pregnant daughters. He has to say something but can't just admit "Oh yeah, I raped both of them until they got pregnant..."

So, he does the usual thing child rapists do... says it was their idea, they seduced him, they wanted it, he had no choice but to go along, yada yada yada.

Whether Lot knew or didn't know because he was drunk is not an issue. He knew because he was the aggressor, not them. I'd buy that he was drunk but that's probably what added to him deciding to rape his daughters. But them conspiring together and consenting to having sex with him? Bull. Shit. He raped his daughters and then blamed them for it.

Particularly given girls would be 'maids' for such a brief time and most married off by 15, they weren't exactly 'cougars'🙄

I always thought it was also highly suss his misses winds up dead just before he knocks up his children.

How on earth is this a good man? Yet being gay is bad?!!!

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Wall.E. I certainly wouldn't agree you are "the new Lloyd Evans"🤣😭, for any number of reasons that would be obvious to anyone on this site.

However I will take one aspect of your question that has a serious element to it.

How does one make you tube content about CSA in a way that isn't, not doesn't look, exploitative. (First off I have to say anyone aware of the sort of editing hours videos such as yours require, compared with the financial remittance you'd receive, would put any ideas of a financial incentive right out of their heads!!)

So perhaps your concern stems from the fact that much of your content is light hearted, or at least if the subject matter is serious you have an upbeat and entertaining way with your presentation? In almost all situations this is a net positive, but I can understand if you feel a little out of your depth?( I seem to recall you've been to college so you may have some training in psychology? So I may be off here)

I know you've made anothet channel, a JW streaming channel with Alt Worldly. So what about a similar thing of doing another channel dedicated to CSA and news around CSA with others experienced in this field? I know it's heavy weight. I'm wondering if Barb and some of the survivors could oversee it, and then you yourself could do the "interviews" because you have a compassionate way about you W and a definite skill and ability in front of the camera? We could have some researchers to report on cases or law changes etc, for instance the recent change in Illinois whereby elders must complete a mandatory reporters training course etc

Just an idea.

I know it's time consuming etc but I just think it's going to take multiple skill sets to tackle something like CSA & do it the justice it deserves. Whatever anyone says, though, in my view your skill is empathy with person you are conversing with and putting them at ease. You cannot fake that Wall. E.

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Watchtower looses Norwegian Appeal

by Diogenesister in

watchtower has just lost its appeal in the norwegian courts over the withdrawal of the funding it receives from the government as an officially recognised religion.

the initial decision will now stand due to what the court termed 'exclusionary practices' which includes the witnesses barbaric practice of shunning minors, even by family members in their own homes.

the ministry of children and families have decided they are now no longer eligible for the state grant of 16 million norwegian kroner given to officially recognised religions.. the following is a statement has been issued, i have summarised if it isn't readable: .

Diogenesister

Indomitable Fish We put children in jail or in custody when they commit crimes. Is that abuse? They put parents of children in jail when parents commit crimes separating from parents and arresting in front of children.

In jailing parents courts take child welfare into account, which is why they rarely jail mothers for minor crimes. But anyway kids still have the right to visit, telephone & write to their jailed parents and vice versa!!! Even an expelled child can talk to his friends outside of school, let alone family!!

This religion mandates the shunning of minors. It happens in the home, even! Witnesses throwing out DF 16 & 17 year olds is common.

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Covid virus transmission NOT tested in Pfizer trials

by BoogerMan in

why isn't the world's media covering this revelation?.

if i'd lost a job, business, or reputation for refusing to "get jabbed and save other people's lives," i think i'd be demanding to know what "science" enforced some of the draconian laws & punishments on those who declined the "offer.".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6vbi8gonum.

Diogenesister

This charming Man My six year ended up in the hospital with covid and there was a lot of other children in there with him. Please shut the fuck about how harmless pediatric cases are. You don't work in the hospital, you don't conduct clinic trials, like shut the fuck up.

Actually I was an Intensive care nurse for twenty years. I don't work in ITU now but I'm in touch with many nurses and I have friends with 'vulnerable' kids, too. I also worked in pediatric ICU at St. Mary's, London and Kings College and a school for kids with Special Needs. Even kids with epilepsy contracted it and were fine, though the few cases in the UK admitted to ITU were kids with epilepsy or had rare genetic conditions.

I'm not doubting your sincerity, but the vast, vast majority of kids barely know they have it. Certainly the hundreds of kids I know, including mine, were fine. I would say most of those kids in hospital with your son, were there for other conditions and also happened to test positive to COVID.

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Covid virus transmission NOT tested in Pfizer trials

by BoogerMan in

why isn't the world's media covering this revelation?.

if i'd lost a job, business, or reputation for refusing to "get jabbed and save other people's lives," i think i'd be demanding to know what "science" enforced some of the draconian laws & punishments on those who declined the "offer.".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6vbi8gonum.

Diogenesister

Grifters

Dr Campbell provides his medical teaching books and videos free of charge to student nurses around the world...particularly in third world countries. He has no adverts on his channel and donates a lot of money to third world medical charities. He also personally gave vaccines as a volunteer.

He's a Christian actually and an extremely principled man.

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Covid virus transmission NOT tested in Pfizer trials

by BoogerMan in

why isn't the world's media covering this revelation?.

if i'd lost a job, business, or reputation for refusing to "get jabbed and save other people's lives," i think i'd be demanding to know what "science" enforced some of the draconian laws & punishments on those who declined the "offer.".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6vbi8gonum.

Diogenesister

. John Campbell is a snake pandering for youtube hits. His platforms earns him like 6000 a month. You don't get those hits with real science. You have to try and provide a more sensational. Grifters

Oh come off it, what the hell does "move at the speed of science" bloody mean? Nothing!! He's correct, they lied.

No drug company can purposely try and infect a human with a pathogen to test for transmissibility and vaccine effectiveness.

No one is suggesting that Riley. The issue is that whilst we understand it takes time for reliable data to come in, people were loosing their jobs & having restrictions placed on their movements based on a false premise - that of 'one should take the vaccine to protect others'. Not to mention the industry & media's deceit around suppressing information on the effectiveness of natural immunity as opposed to the vaccine.

To me the most egregious thing is that we completely reversed medical ethics by giving a vaccine that could potentially harm young Children, when there is zero benefit to them individually and as a cohort, since COVID barely makes kids sick.

You cannot say the pharmaceutical industry and government orgs are not without form when it comes to issues of trust. One example is the scandal around Vioxx deaths that could have been prevented by the FDA. "The race to approve new drugs without proper safety testing is affecting the public's health" states medical journal PLoS Medicine "ties between drug regulators and industry is affecting new drug approval"

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Thank you LMsA for clearing some of that up. I truly enjoy your posts which contain a valuable wealth of knowledge.

Me too. They're gold ❤️

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Have JW `s ever faced the topic of Jesus having inherited Adamic sin ?

by smiddy3 in

according to the bible all humans male and female have inherited sin because of adam and eve`s disobedience to god .. god may have impregnated mary with a life force , however it was still sinful mary who gave birth to jesus after nine months in her body who is /was supposedly without sin ?.

mary must have passed on some of her sinful state to jesus having been in her womb for the past nine months , surely.

and there is nothing in the bible / scripture to say otherwise ?.

Diogenesister

Pescatary One Where did Jesus get his y chromosome from? Not from Mary and not from Adam. JW hold that Adam could have produced perfect offspring inspite of Eve’s transgression. It is noteworthy that Jesus’s genealogy is through Mary. He is not a direct descendant of any male. Eve was affected by sin only after Adam sinned.Anyway, the perfect genes that JC got from God fixed the problem and JC didn’t inherit sin from Eve or Mary—or Adam.

Fisherman you do realise that males inherit an X chromosome from their mothers? Not only that but half their genes are from their mothers, also mitochondrial DNA which is ancient.

Watchtower removed that lunacy because it demonstrates an egg as merely an empty vessel with no genetic material to impart itself.

As to Adam having perfect kids had he not eaten the fruit, they know Jehovah would have to create another woman (Jewish legend has it he'd already created one, Lilith, who refused to submit to Adam).

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Watchtower looses Norwegian Appeal

by Diogenesister in

watchtower has just lost its appeal in the norwegian courts over the withdrawal of the funding it receives from the government as an officially recognised religion.

the initial decision will now stand due to what the court termed 'exclusionary practices' which includes the witnesses barbaric practice of shunning minors, even by family members in their own homes.

the ministry of children and families have decided they are now no longer eligible for the state grant of 16 million norwegian kroner given to officially recognised religions.. the following is a statement has been issued, i have summarised if it isn't readable: .

Diogenesister

Smid, based on God things to God. Rarely do the authorities act sua sponte on theses matters. Usually it is because someone complained who has beef against the JW religion.

Fisher one You do understand this is about child abuse right? Presumably you accept the government has a right to step in to protect children??! They are not banning Watchtower merely not giving them official status and by extension a big fat cheque!!

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Watchtower looses Norwegian Appeal

by Diogenesister in

watchtower has just lost its appeal in the norwegian courts over the withdrawal of the funding it receives from the government as an officially recognised religion.

the initial decision will now stand due to what the court termed 'exclusionary practices' which includes the witnesses barbaric practice of shunning minors, even by family members in their own homes.

the ministry of children and families have decided they are now no longer eligible for the state grant of 16 million norwegian kroner given to officially recognised religions.. the following is a statement has been issued, i have summarised if it isn't readable: .

Diogenesister

Thank you New Boy for your original posts.

This is the work of some amazing Norwegian activists (yes....they make change happen!) not least among them Jan Frode Nilsen

Below is a video about the case earlier this year.

https://youtu.be/JdULzJJBaxE