Posts by Diogenesister

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

My guess is that early in his childhood his Dad had a bad luck streak. Then quickly recovered and got wealthy. Also, IRRC his Dad's company reported an income of around 1.5 million last year, I think it's somewhere in this thread.

I was going to say as far as I know he's chronically unemployed and I got the impression he lives on disability/retirement benefit. Lloyd was raised during a relatively affluent time in the UK and if you had both parents working you probably had a reasonable childhood. Particularly since a bike was probably the biggest expenditure on a kid in the UK back then!😁I always assumed he was a working class boy from a nice home. You can tell. Upper and middle class Brits have a different vibe about them.

I also remember that BBC interview, it was lousy. I see someone managed to post it.

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The question`s GOD beleiver / Creationists ignore or don`t / won`t / can`t answer ?

by smiddy3 in

the common thread of beleivers / creationists of a god creating life is design .. and if something / anything is designed it must have a designer ?.

however this reasoning is discarded when talking about the existence of god.. and if such a being as god somehow existed without a designer why not all forms of life itself as existing on earth ?.

coming into existence without a designer ?.

Diogenesister

"depends on.............. the consumption of other living organisms to live? "

This is what I find so hard to deal with.

I watch nesting birds. Seeing a mother bird throw her week chicks out of the nest is heartbreaking. Not to mention the torture a poor frog goes through as she tries to feed her ravenous larger chicks since it's a little too big to fit down their throats....it's brutal. A mouse suffers a similar fate. And that's one bird, in one moment in time. Think of the billions and billions of suffering creatures because our world is based on predation. On murder. Completely aside from humans and han behaviour/suffering.

How can a benign god have designed such a mechanism?

https://youtu.be/Y02GR9jxhyQ

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Is the tide turning against covid vaccines?

by slimboyfat in

have you seen this video about the covid vaccines?

have you got any views on the information?

i find it worrying at least.

Diogenesister

Lol! Well played, Riley, well played

Really? Sarcasm? How brilliant of you. Riley it's utterly patronising of you to assume exjws cannot understand scientific papers. That we don't have the intelligence to challenge the government narrative. There is nuance here and very few things in this world are all good or all bad. I also tend to assume, when I have no evidence to the contrary that profit is the over riding motive in any situation - not human welfare.

The Wuhan virus originated in a gain of function lab. This new Boston virus is terrifying and utterly pointless. A monstrous chimaeric virus, it may have an 80% fatality rate in humans ( research based on transgenic humanised mice). How anyone can justify such cavalier behaviour after one lab escape is beyond me.

(NB Our new British Prime minister has refused in the past to say whether he has financially benefited from soaring share prices associated with a Hedge fund he co-originated called Theleme, which invests heavily in Moderna. Just a thought.)

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Kingdom Hall Bomb

by Dr Jekyll in

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old news but uncle bruce wanted it dug up.... the guardian.

22nd july 1985.. man killed in blast.

at sydney service.. from richard yallop in melbourne.. one man was killed and 70 people were taken to hospital after a bomb exploded yesterday during a jehovah's witnesses service in a kingdom hall in the sydney suburb of lurnea.. the explosion occurred close to the speaker's dais just as mr. david winder, a visiting elder from the sydney suburb of prospect, had begun his address on loyalty to god and the family.

Diogenesister

It sounds like that poor couple went through hell😔(not to mention the widow and others). For the society to minimise their suffering is horrific. No human interest, no compassion, always about selling the Watchtower angle.

What I did take away was the immediate aid and support by neighbours, first responders and wider Australian community. Doesn't quite fit with watchtower rhetoric!

Smid I wonder how these same people in that congregation then, are now going nowadays. ?

That could be interesting

Yes, I'd like to know too. I remember the incident well.

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What decade or era in human history do you like the most or would have liked to live during?

by Fisherman in

in the us, the 60s and 70s was a great time to be alive except for getting drafted if you wanted to be that age.

they were music years, greatest movies, fun, simpler and enjoyable days—also except for the d&ugs.

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Diogenesister

Stan The Man here in the UK it was all doing well up to 2019---gone to pieces since.

Couldn't agree more

Slim1990s was the best decade ever

Agree even more 😁

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

He’s always leaned heavily on the altruistic nature of what he does and even had Paul Grundy come on here stating he could be earning so much more in the secular world.

That's just deluded. Even in the UK he would struggle with no professional qualifications - plus he doesn't even have a bachelor's. But he's not in the UK he's in Croatia. Where he's futher disabled by the language barrier, the fact it's a rural area & poorer economy in general. I got the impression he left the UK in part due to debt issues.

With the money he's making now he's like a pig in shit. He's his own boss & even had the arrogance to expect his unpaid 'employees' to do his dirty work by sorting his wife out so she gets with the programme, too!

As for spending his money how he wishes, that's not the impression his patreon statement gives, for one. But anyway any number of professions, particularly those connected with child welfare, expect some degree of ethical behaviour in your private life.

Doctors, nurses, lawyers, teachers, physio's, social workers and policemen can't double life like Jehovah's witnesses can - (unless you're the Bad Lieutenant!)

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Jehovah's New Light

by Vanderhoven7 in

what new light from jehovah did you find hard to swallow?.

the conversations in the attached video are enlightening.

the graphic is hilarious.. https://youtu.be/byj3zrpbuvg.

Diogenesister

Indomitable Fish She calls pretending she has questions. It’s a lie. She knows her answers. Her real purpose is to challenge JW and advocate her beliefs

I agree I find the conversations uncomfortable listening, because her presentation is too aggressive. The witness will just switch off because they will sense "apostate". She simply knows too much.

The truth should be able to withstand scrutiny

I agree Carla it should indeed and most Christians are happy and willing to discuss and debate their beliefs. However Witnesses are in a cult. It's like an addiction or an eating disorder - you have to be careful of what you say because you can drive them in harder.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Remember he had a counter or something on his timeline, counting how many days with no response and then said something about how THEY were failing DV victims?

Literally, said that SHELTERS, whose sole purpose is to help victims, were the ones failing them simply because they weren't giving Lloyd attention.

Sorry, but....are you f#cking kidding me? He DID that?? What a git.

They wouldn't even notice it merely by tagging the shelter anyway, too busy. These under funded places don't have 'social media managers' FFS. He can't quietly email them the info, because that doesn't get him any attention which is his primary reason for what he writes. Not protecting DV victims

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Besides, what are you gonna do if a UK government agency decides to come down on men like you as hard as you want them to do with the JWs? Human trafficking and sex tourism are all part of CSA, so be careful what you wish for, you filthy ass.

Under the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008 sex tourists who abuse minors can be prosecuted in the UK even if the act was legal in Thailand. There's no way on god's green earth they will allow that man within a mile of anything to do with combatting child abuse as a Thai sex ~~pest~~ tourist. Sickening.

Anyone who works with children and does not report child sexual abuse should be prosecuted, the final report of a huge, seven-year inquiry has recommended.

Sounds pretty good to me. They only have powers to recommend, not to dictate sentences. He has such a cheek to complain.

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Not Reporting Child Abuse Should Be Prosecuted

by usualusername1 in

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anyone who works with children and does not report child sexual abuse should be prosecuted, the final report of a huge, seven-year inquiry has recommended.. this could be huge for elders in the uk.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63318342.

Diogenesister

I should note that the recommendation regarding 'mandated reporters' would not include Jehovah's Witnesses as they are neither a regulated activity in relation to children, nor in a position of trust (as defined by the Sexual Offences Act 2003

Elders are in a position of trust. Surely you are not suggesting they aren't? I thought that had been established in the majority of western cases. Watchtower's elders 'are clergy/are not clergy' manoeuvres have been found out and debunked!

In the UK we don't have mandatory reporting in all cases for the reasons Earnest noted in bold type above. Victims and families/child services have fears around teenage relationships where, for example, a teenaged girl and her boyfriend of similar age may be reluctant to access contraception for fear of being reported.