Posts by Diogenesister

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

I think the whole grooming/CSA allegations are a pointless rabbit hole to go down right now. Even if you could prove the emails are real (as in an actual email) it doesn't mean anything

Get ready for an unpopular opinion!!

Given the recent absurd video made by some woman with a fake voice claiming her Bethelite cousin told her Lloyd was an undercover Watchtower mole, it proves absolutely people are crazy and stupid enough to just make shit up. So it's entirely possible this character Marko was a fraud and therefore so were the emails. Why hasn't someone found him if he's her cousin-in-law? It's easy enough to check via births and deaths if she even has a married, female cousin, for starters.

Mind you we do know Dijana is wont to share his infidelities with people around her....photos, screenshots etc. That's definitely her "MO" & it's something a lot of women wouldn't do.

Anyway there's no point pontificating when we'll never know unless the victim came forward as someone said already.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Forever AloneI thought that as well Simon. I was thoroughly shocked that she won this case. It does lend some credence to some of the JW's he is recording suing over it doesn't it? Or is this a case of a celebrity getting a different law outcome because of celebrity status?

She won the case because she was leaving a narcotics anonymous meeting.

There is absolutely an expectation of privacy in that case.

Usually in the UK you can record people in public legally. Having said that lots of people do street epistemology, but I think they mostly get permission. Exjws often record dubs and dont, mind you.

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Best Xmas Songs

by peacefulpete in

jw
friends

my favorites.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsdg9qtjzzi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uudu66e_vw.

Diogenesister

https://youtu.be/VCvz7uflMIU

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Best Xmas Songs

by peacefulpete in

jw
friends

my favorites.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsdg9qtjzzi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uudu66e_vw.

Diogenesister

The greatest xmas song of all time is The Pogues and the wonderful Kirsty MaColl that Stan posted above.

But these (I'm dating myself) bring back fond childhood memories at my grandma's. In Dulci Jubilo is actually an old German Carol I've posted it on the next page.

https://youtu.be/XJS9TjjHxx8

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Hang on. This is the worst year of his life? Ever??!

Well all I can say is that he's had a damned easy life then. The only thing that happened is that the general public finally discovered what a bastard he is.

I mean it wasn't his wife catching him cheating with young prostitutes this year that made it bad....that's happened over practically the whole of their marriage, in one form or another. Anyway it seems they're still functioning together as a family. At least they're going on plenty of holidays together, so I think they're only 'separated' when it suits him. 🤔

Was it the worst year of his life because people finally stopped working for him for free when they realised what a piss taker he was? Is that the worst thing that's ever happened to him?

It wasn't the worst year of his life when his mum died of cancer ?

Wasn't it the worst year of his life when his father and sister stopped talking to him? When his best friends since childhood starting shunning him and he knew it would be forever?

It wasn't the worst year of his life when his Dad showed him the door and he was up to the eyeballs in debt & jobless? Landing in a country where he didn't speak a word of the language?

Or when he had to work through the loss of his faith and the realisation that he would never, ever see his mum again? That his mum had completely ceased to exist?

I think his sense of perspective is completely skewed.🤷🏻

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Kim S He may have wanted the data however IICSA said no. To continue pressing and criticizing iicsa for not insisting WT provide the data, isn’t a great way to endear iicsa to your cause.

I'm not sure if iicsa gave a reason for not requesting the data. It may be that they did not have the power, did not have the remit, or....and this is my theory .....that in their view the 'numbers' were not that relevent.

What I mean by that is that if Watchtower policies are the cause of abuse going unreported and children suffering, it should not matter how many kids are affected. Even one child is bad enough. If it was just the data that was important, if it was just about numbers, at what figure is the trigger point for action to be taken? Is it 50 children? 100? 1000? That would be an obscene concept - to say that 49 children 'sacrificed' to Watchtower is acceptable, but 50 isn't. In that sense I can understand why data wasn't important to iicsa.

I mean don't get me wrong, it makes for good headlines. Which may have been his priority?

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Wall.E. As far as I can see everyone on this thread with the exception of Kim & Simon has used pseudonyms, so it really couldn't be proven who said what. Even 'Newly Enlightenment' could be anyone within their family. I also wouldn't worry because nothing you have posted is offensive or untrue. It's not even unkind. Please don't worry.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

In addition to searching for new ways to get paid via YT & Patreon, Jabba the Hutt is still whining about not getting paid for being a Core Participant at IICSA.

Nobody asked Lloyd Evans to be a "core participant" - for which he has constantly crowed about ever since. He even paid a lawyer to force them to accept him. Why would they pay any attention to him? He's not a victim, parent of a victim, or someone who worked within the organisation. As far as they're concerned, he's an ex member with a grudge.

All the evidence they need, aside from victim statements, is right there in print. Watchtower is damned by it's own publications.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

And by the way I'm pretty sure that it's Arthur weber who does all the transcript of all those convention videos, which is a lot of work! Like L.E. give him $ for that...I don't think so...

Having a son with autism this annoys me since he's clearly taking advantage here.I would like to think he reimburses him something for it but I highly doubt it.

Despite great effort, there will be small mistakes. He may be unwilling to expose himself to criticism.

I think you're probably right Vintage.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Forever alone (😥) I know the first thing that he needs to do right now though is take lessons and learn how to speak Croatian fluently if he hopes to stay in Croatia for a "real job".

I know. I find it really strange that someone with an obvious ability with language hasn't learned the language of the country he's lived in for 17 years, when he's actually living with a family who speaks that language!

I was always surprised he didn't do at least a few videos in Croation (if he cares about waking JWs up as much as he claims). Either he won't get enough views or he's promised the in-laws not to.