well well am3 made it to norweigian media with hsi rant about religouse persecution.. hereis the link.. share your thoughts.. ble nektet statstøtte: jehovas vitner vurderer juridiske skritt – vårt land (vl.no) .
Well Jan Frode Nilsen just posted that watchtower had submitted a document to the Norwegian government stating they will not change their shunning rule and that the government is interfering with religious practice! (They're not of course - the government has a right to determine the rules organizations must abide by to be entitled to grants!)
Anyway It's a change from what watchtower wrote earlier which was that it was all a misunderstanding and that they don't shun!
seriously....this is an article on jw.borg.. really?
football - or soccer - and bible?.
these guys have really lost the plot.. i can promise you that bible does not say a flying flaming about world cup.. however, as much as people want them to, these events cannot provide lasting unity.
That's absolutely bonkers!! To say supporting your team, local or national, "showcases divisive attitudes" that marks the time of the end is daft!!
What about when Witnesses play a game of footie, or rounders, baseball, softball, beach volleyball or even board or card games that have opposing teams?? What - do they want their opposing team to win?! Of course not! It's part of the fun!
Of all the problems the world has that they could talk about, football isn't one (unless you support England😭).
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"Lloyd Evans has put his whole life on the line to expose watchtower"??!!
😂😂🤣🤣
More like he's drummed himself up a six figure sum per year from vulnerable,naive ex witnesses! He's actually created a life - or at least a career - for himself where he had none, with his watchtower "Hacktivism"!
mark jones explains the watchtower gospel much better than i can.. "the good news that christians in the first century preached was the birth, death and resurrection of jesus christ; that all those who believed in him were saved and reconciled to god through the death of his son.. unfortunately jehovah’s witnesses) have been led to believe it is something bizarrely different.
the good news according to the watchtower society is as follows:.
the the good news (according to jehovah’s witnesses).
This is something I posted after an obvious JW wrote something disingenuous about the Russia ban on quora. It's absolutely swamped with them lately writing all sorts of rubbish but that post by Marc is brilliant.
Anyway I countered a Quora post claiming JWs are law abiding with the following:
Jehovah's witnesses do not obey the laws of the land.
Which laws?
They violate the human rights of their members
The right to freedom of thought and freedom of religion.
The right to free association.
The right to family relationships.
All the above are prevented by their shunning policy. If a minor is baptised and decided they no longer believe as an adult they will loose their friends, family and whole support network. Because witnesses are forbidden to associate with non witnesses (outside of work etc) they loose everything.
The right of children to be safe from sexual predators and for adults to report to the authorities instances of child abuse even if there are NOT TWO WITNESSES which their governing body demands there be. (Interestingly if someone damages Watchtower property it is reported despite there being not two witnesses).
Wow what a load of misinformation! Where does this stuff come from???
I have provided you with two official reports of Watchtowers abuse of its members. The Australian Royal Commission (there are transcripts and you can watch all the proceedings including Governing Body member Geoff Jackson testify). And the recent Norway Ruling on their shunning policy and the 'two witness rule' which is required in order for Jehovah's witness elders to report child abuse. Watchtower has refused to hand over a database of over 22,000 child abusers within their ranks. Please see the Candice Conti case, the first one that didn't slap a non disclosure order on the victim, which they'd quietly been doing for decades. Please just Google child abuse and Jehovah's witnesses. You will be overwhelmed
Then he replied:
confidential documents contain reports of any alleged incidents regarding a broad range of sexual misconduct and is not limited to sexual abuse of minors.
The records include the following:
Those allegations may include anyone who has walked into a Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses; any individual who has studied the Bible with us in prison; and every person out of the community that associates with us where we've become aware that there is a child abuse allegation. In each case, we have followed it up and recorded it. That's the reason for those numbers. And, without details regarding these incidents, the claims about the number of alleged perpetrators as it relates to sexual abuse of minors is meaningless.
As director of the Office of Public Information, J. R. Brown, told BBC Panorama, "We do not apologize for keeping such records here in the United States. Apart from being legally needed, they have been very helpful to us in our efforts to protect the flock from harm.
As for the Washington thing it revolved around ONE named person who eventually went to prison. They SPECULATED that it may have been sooner.
And this will continue and we expect it:
Matthew 10:16–18 NASB
16 “Behold, I am sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be as wary as serpents, and as innocent as doves. 17 But be on guard against people, for they will hand you over to the courts and flog you in their synagogues; 18 and you will even be brought before governors and kings on My account, as a testimony to them and to the Gentiles.
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Tobey5 LoydEvansParody posted on twitter that L.E. will have another JWwatch live on Norway, cause he need to have $$$ for Christmas toys and haircut for his kids...
Wow he's so late with everything he posts! Everyone has heard everything about it by now. Most of it from the horses mouth Jan Frode Nilsen who instigated the whole thing and Goat like personality who was also involved, both of them living in Norway. Why does anyone need to listen to him months later, when everyone such as Kim and Mikey, WallyB and of course Goatlike have already covered it thoroughly.
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Here he is Pr0ner I've found about it. It seemed to have happened in 2017. Very bizarre I've never heard anything like it!! He must have made very specific personal allegations. I've got to say this particular video is very restrained and I certainly can't see any problem with it at all. I'm really shocked. There's got to be more to it. He's not an exjw but he is a Christian it seems.
https://tedteamsite.wordpress.com/2017/03/13/robert-skynner-of-devonport-plymouth/
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I think the whole grooming/CSA allegations are a pointless rabbit hole to go down right now. Even if you could prove the emails are real (as in an actual email) it doesn't mean anything
Get ready for an unpopular opinion!!
Given the recent absurd video made by some woman with a fake voice claiming her Bethelite cousin told her Lloyd was an undercover Watchtower mole, it proves absolutely people are crazy and stupid enough to just make shit up. So it's entirely possible this character Marko was a fraud and therefore so were the emails. Why hasn't someone found him if he's her cousin-in-law? It's easy enough to check via births and deaths if she even has a married, female cousin, for starters.
Mind you we do know Dijana is wont to share his infidelities with people around her....photos, screenshots etc. That's definitely her "MO" & it's something a lot of women wouldn't do.
Anyway there's no point pontificating when we'll never know unless the victim came forward as someone said already.
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Forever AloneI thought that as well Simon. I was thoroughly shocked that she won this case. It does lend some credence to some of the JW's he is recording suing over it doesn't it? Or is this a case of a celebrity getting a different law outcome because of celebrity status?
She won the case because she was leaving a narcotics anonymous meeting.
There is absolutely an expectation of privacy in that case.
Usually in the UK you can record people in public legally. Having said that lots of people do street epistemology, but I think they mostly get permission. Exjws often record dubs and dont, mind you.
my favorites.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsdg9qtjzzi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uudu66e_vw.
my favorites.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsdg9qtjzzi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uudu66e_vw.
The greatest xmas song of all time is The Pogues and the wonderful Kirsty MaColl that Stan posted above.
But these (I'm dating myself) bring back fond childhood memories at my grandma's. In Dulci Jubilo is actually an old German Carol I've posted it on the next page.
