Posts by Diogenesister

I can't help but think this has something to do with Pennsylvania. There's ten now (one due to be served). One Elder suicide. Shapiro was as good as his word.

Has Morris stepped down to avoid being subpoenaed as a governing Body member ????

Apparently they're in the process of investigating if the "cover up" went higher than the congregation elders...so we're talking COs, Branch and of course HQ.

We know it did and does!! Maybe they're planning on removing any GB members who were in positions of authority during the period the crimes took place ie the service committee would be one area.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Vintage Are you one of my relatives? Maybe a cousin? I look exactly like my avatar, btw

He looks like your brother with a thyroid problem. I think you both need to check 23and me🤣

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Divisions deliberately caused by God?

by LostintheFog1999 in

assuming that you don't dismiss genesis outright as a collection of myths, i was musing about the actions of god as recorded in genesis 11:1-9 regarding the building of the tower of babel.. this origin story for the multiplicity of languages in the earth has god getting annoyed with humans for staying in one location instead of filling out across the whole world.. yahweh could have stopped the tower being built by collapsing it by means of an earthquake, sinking sand, or an extreme gale.

even using an angel to kick it over when everyone was tucked up in bed asleep.

but no, instead he muddles up the vocabulary and grammar and made brand new languages creating division and confusion.. what's more he didn't scatter them and send them off in mixed multicultural groups, but instead he lets them wander off in tribes and family groups.

Diogenesister

But Raymond there's a description of Moses' death. Therefore, how could he have written it?

Also, confusing languages is rather ridiculous when you realise how quickly two people with different languages can learn to communicate and speak each others languages when they have to.

Day one....point to stone:

Bob: cobwoddy V Trevor: Dicksloppy.

Point to mortar:

Bob: pukewhistle V Trevor: oinkworth.

Point to hammer:

Bob: humpants V Trevor: Dingbo

You get the idea. It's not hard. A fairly rudimentary intelligence could bust that little scam

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Passport to Heaven

by JW Answers in

jehovah's witnesses believe that only 144,000 go to heaven, where as the bible teaches us that all who come to jesus can!

nothing in the bible for 144,000.. the bible teaches that salvation is not through religion, works, self righteousness or human effort.

but salvation is only through the person of the lord jesus christ.. feel free to watch below.

Diogenesister

No. There's no free will either way:

A creator being, creates Humans in his image: Do as I say or I will kill you

Evolution via natural selection. Human consciousness a consequence of complexity: Behave as your DNA codes you to behave

Yes. I'm a determinist.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Vintage did you noticed that website used JW.com and JWfacts.com as two of its references? Obviously a Chinese site there's no way even a Spanish or Portuguese speaker would get the gender pronouns so confused - even mid-sentence at times!

Wow no wonder Spillane was allowed to continue writing those sort of books if he contributed to watchtower as any kind of percentage of his wealth. I'd say he's probably the richest JW there's ever been. Including the Williams and Jackson's combined!

Also some interesting characters such as a boxer who converted as an adult during his career (which continued) and the dungeons and dragons game designer. Both active witnesses. Imagine most jWs couldn't even play that game, nor watch boxing matches let alone design the game or compete in a boxing match🤔

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Jw shot and killed in field service!

by nowwhat? in

another example of jehovah protects his people except when he doesn't.

https://www.wifr.com/2023/02/12/rockford-police-54-year-old-man-shot-killed-vehicle/.

Diogenesister

The shooter was a 15 year old kid. Still on the run.

Now what You make a good point about Watchtower not helping the widow or orphan. They are commanded to, as well!! With their billions of $$$$$.

There's also the nasty, cruel insinuation that any witness harmed like this probably has a "secret sin", since Jehovah didn't protect them

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Another interesting comment made by a PIMI JW

by joe134cd in

i thought i’d shear this with you good people.

the cognitive dissonance is just breath taking.

i over heard this comment at a relatives family dinner the other night.

Diogenesister

Wozza And yet many elders have a moustache ,now that's what I call Pharasaical.

They were forced into accepting moustaches because in many regions of the world a man without facial hair - a moustache at minimum - is viewed with suspicion!! Think Turkey, the middle east, even Mexico etc

Fooley Beth Sarim- I had all the qualifications as an Elder but I have a skin condition that makes shaving not practical or healthy for me. " Sorry, can't make you an elder because of the hair on your face." Who cares about your book smarts and teach

I know I've mentioned it many times before, but my best friends dad had a beard when he was baptised in the 70s. They used him to the fullest extent in every way - doing accounts, carpentry, building, designing, advice etc you name it. He designed aircraft for British Aerospace and tested them out so really smart.

I believe he got baptised to please his wife, a modest man he had no ambitions in the cong. Elders tried to get him to shave but he refused, rightly stating if it was good enough when he got baptised it's good enough now. He was never an elder but otherwise would have qualified. Perfect JW family & wife a pioneer almost from baptism until the day she died, supported financially by him of course

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The Mandalorian is an Apostate

by neat blue dog in

i wonder how many jws will squirm watching the upcoming 3rd season of mandalorian in which out of compassion he was obliged to break certain rules of his religion and is now labeled an apostate.

awkward!.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l6ye7fue220.

Diogenesister

ThomasMore - “… they throw the word around like a ~~baseball~~ grenade…”

Vidiot Fixed that for ya.

That sounds like something the REAL Thomas Moore would have said. Then I realised that would have made him a prophet :)

Either way it should be a famous quote!

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Underage child: PIMI vs PIMO parents rights

by psyco in

i am a pimo, inactive, parent of an underage child.

i was wondering what rights i have in regards to avoid that my child will be baptized when still underage, not having read the entire bible and before being able to clearly evaluate all the alternatives and consequences (like it happened to me) whereas the other pimi parent has all the rights to do it.

any experiences about children in a pimi vs pimo parents situation?

Diogenesister

Fisherman You can tell your kid that you want him to wait until he gets older. And you can tell the elders that you don’t want him to get baptized until he is of legal age because that is your decision.

I agree with The Fisher one it's really as simple as this. Just explain. The elders won't baptise a minor if a parent doesn't want them to until they're of age. (not sure your sex) If you are the father I can absolutely guarantee they won't go against your wishes as 'head'(if you're divorced, head of the child at least, if not it's mother)